Innovate/Spritex/Bullet... What I found searching the web.

[SkullWorks]

Originally Posted by nonicname

I really wish somebody had said this since the beginning.

This is how all REAL parts companies work...It's sad that it needs to be stated and restated so much.

I spent a good while chatting with the innovate peeps this weekend, they are in no hurry to sell bad product, they are shaking stuff down and verifying everything, just like it should be,

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by SkullWorks

This is how all REAL parts companies work...It's sad that it needs to be stated and restated so much.

I spent a good while chatting with the Innovate peeps this weekend, they are in no hurry to sell bad product, they are shaking stuff down and verifying everything, just like it should be,

Fixed that for you.

[SkullWorks]

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83

Fixed that for you.

Thank you, needs more coffee

[Opposed]

Originally Posted by xxscaxx

So this is from straight e85 consumption...would a "wash" of regular pump gas take care of this problem, or do you feel its inevitable when running e85?

Kind of bummed since I am waiting for an e85 tune right now.

Yea, lets talk more about this! If this is the case, im switching back to pump gas in the next couple of days. This is kind of a bummer....

[Frostyman]

Yikes!!! Looks like I need to swap back to pump gas now too. Let's talk about cleanup, if this happens to anyone. How do we get the gunk gone? My panic level just spiked.

[robispec]

I was lucky as I have many friends in the tc community they hit the problem FIRST TRY.. seems their intank filter does the same on their e-85 boosted cars too... I'm ASSUMING regular gasoline with ocasional e-85 uses will prevent this ...No Dangit I wont go there... ALL alcohols are SOLVENTS too...and they work particularly well on adhesives....like the kind glueing the felt material to the filter pleats...so with Murphy in mine if it can fail it will...and at the worst possible time.
We
Cleaned the tank and all feed and return lines
Replaced the intank pump
Replaced the port injectors
Replaced Direct injection pump
Replaced/cleaned all DI hardlines
Replaced the direct injectors
We did this from the tank forward in sequence to try and isolate the restrictions.
Car did not run clean till EVERYTHING had been serviced/replaced/cleaned..
ALL E-85 users I would LOOK at your intank sump bowl. ANY DEBRIS means your return fillter is disintegrating...

[Opposed]

Originally Posted by Frostyman

Yikes!!! Looks like I need to swap back to pump gas now too. Let's talk about cleanup, if this happens to anyone. How do we get the gunk gone? My panic level just spiked.

Yea, seriously. Should we open a new thread dedicated to this? This is the first time I have heard of E85 damaging the stock fuel system. But I guess it was bound to happen...

[sw20kosh]

This effect will be more pronounced / happen earlier on Robi's car since it is tracked like crazy and doesn't see pump.

Looks like it is inevitable for everyone esle though...just a matter of time. Time to find an E85 compatible fuel filter? Shouldn't be too hard right?

[xxscaxx]

Originally Posted by robispec

I was lucky as I have many friends in the tc community they hit the problem FIRST TRY.. seems their intank filter does the same on their e-85 boosted cars too... I'm ASSUMING regular gasoline with ocasional e-85 uses will prevent this ...No Dangit I wont go there... ALL alcohols are SOLVENTS too...and they work particularly well on adhesives....like the kind glueing the felt material to the filter pleats...so with Murphy in mine if it can fail it will...and at the worst possible time.
We
Cleaned the tank and all feed and return lines
Replaced the intank pump
Replaced the port injectors
Replaced Direct injection pump
Replaced/cleaned all DI hardlines
Replaced the direct injectors
We did this from the tank forward in sequence to try and isolate the restrictions.
Car did not run clean till EVERYTHING had been serviced/replaced/cleaned..
ALL E-85 users I would LOOK at your intank sump bowl. ANY DEBRIS means your return fillter is disintegrating...

There goes me running E85 for now until some kind of fix is in place.

This really sucks.

[tom@kartboy]

What about a flex fuel filter? isnt there a tahoe or a ford truck that we could adapt the filter?

[Adeets]

Originally Posted by robispec

I was lucky as I have many friends in the tc community they hit the problem FIRST TRY.. seems their intank filter does the same on their e-85 boosted cars too... I'm ASSUMING regular gasoline with ocasional e-85 uses will prevent this ...No Dangit I wont go there... ALL alcohols are SOLVENTS too...and they work particularly well on adhesives....like the kind glueing the felt material to the filter pleats...so with Murphy in mine if it can fail it will...and at the worst possible time.
We
Cleaned the tank and all feed and return lines
Replaced the intank pump
Replaced the port injectors
Replaced Direct injection pump
Replaced/cleaned all DI hardlines
Replaced the direct injectors
We did this from the tank forward in sequence to try and isolate the restrictions.
Car did not run clean till EVERYTHING had been serviced/replaced/cleaned..
ALL E-85 users I would LOOK at your intank sump bowl. ANY DEBRIS means your return fillter is disintegrating...

@robispec can you please make a new thread for E-85 problems and possible solutions to solve the issue before it starts. Not running E-85 is the worse possible fix for this, maybe we can look at the fuel system and create a solution.

Btw heads up to @moto-mike

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by Adeets

@robispec can you please make a new thread for E-85 problems and possible solutions to solve the issue before it starts. Not running E-85 is the worse possible fix for this, maybe we can look at the fuel system and create a solution.

New thread created:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37706

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by robispec

yes but does the stock intank Scion fuel filter disintegrating and contaminating/restricting the ENTIRE fuel system???

Robi

As mentioned before, this is not a "FlexFuel" car so people running E85 are doing so at their own risk.

[Carticular]

Loving this!