Oil extractor oil change.

[Calum]

Wow, I've never seen these before. Going on the Christmas list!!

[White Shadow]

I purchased one and tried using it a few times. Now it just sits in my garage collecting dust. It's not that it doesn't work properly, it's just that it's not getting ALL the oil out of the pan. How do I know? Well, being the anal bastard I am, I sucked all the oil out that would possibly come out and then I removed the drain plug and watched as the last bit of oil (maybe about 1/4 of a quart) dripped out.

If I can't get that last 1/4 of a quart out, I'm not using the damn thing.

If anyone wants a barely used oil extractor, let me know. I'll sell it cheap!

[White Shadow]

Originally Posted by mach330

I have one as well. Been using UT on my bimmers (until they got rid of dipstick!). Love the fact that fr-s/brz oil filter is also on top. No more kidding the car for me.

Tap'd from my G-Nex

My Audi doesn't have a dipstick either (it uses an "electronic" dipstick, meaning an oil level display on the navigation screen), but it does have a dipstick tube on the side of the block that is supposed to be used for service. Are you sure that BMW doesn't also have a dipstick tube?

BTW, a lot of Audi guys simply buy the proper dipstick from an Audi dealership and then they can check their oil the old fashioned way. LOL. I was going to do the same thing, but I found that the "electronic" dipstick is actually VERY accurate. During an oil change, I filled the engine exactly 1 quart shy of full and checked the electronic display, and it showed exactly 1 quart low. Then I added oil 1/4 of a quart at a time and the display matched perfectly every time. So now I have more confidence with the electronic dipstick, but I'll probably buy myself an actual dipstick one of these days anyway...

[SpeedmasterBRZ]

Hard to clean of the magnet on the drain plug if you were to run one.

I drain the old fashion way from below and still poor/waste a half a quart through the motor to clean out the gunk.

Just because some ways are easier does not make them better. I have been professionally wrenching for over ten years and yet to see a extractor for any fluid on a car/truck yet that does a better job than a drain, clean, and fill.

If you dont have the option to do it yourself and drain it find a good local shop that you trust that will do the job right. It is worth the extra money. Leaving the junk at the bottom of the pan that needs to be drain and cleaned out will keep circulating through the system. When you park the car all the heavy debre will sit in the bottom of the pan and keep building up in your engine.

My 2 cents.

Flame suit on.

[Draco-REX]

Originally Posted by SpeedmasterBRZ

Hard to clean of the magnet on the drain plug if you were to run one.

I drain the old fashion way from below and still poor/waste a half a quart through the motor to clean out the gunk.

Just because some ways are easier does not make them better. I have been professionally wrenching for over ten years and yet to see a extractor for any fluid on a car/truck yet that does a better job than a drain, clean, and fill.

If you dont have the option to do it yourself and drain it find a good local shop that you trust that will do the job right. It is worth the extra money. Leaving the junk at the bottom of the pan that needs to be drain and cleaned out will keep circulating through the system. When you park the car all the heavy debre will sit in the bottom of the pan and keep building up in your engine.

My 2 cents.

Flame suit on.

The stock drain plug isn't magnetic. Get a filter mag and it will keep the shavings in the filter canister for easy disposal.

[bluesubie]

Originally Posted by SpeedmasterBRZ

Hard to clean of the magnet on the drain plug if you were to run one.

I drain the old fashion way from below and still poor/waste a half a quart through the motor to clean out the gunk.

Just because some ways are easier does not make them better. I have been professionally wrenching for over ten years and yet to see a extractor for any fluid on a car/truck yet that does a better job than a drain, clean, and fill.

If you dont have the option to do it yourself and drain it find a good local shop that you trust that will do the job right. It is worth the extra money. Leaving the junk at the bottom of the pan that needs to be drain and cleaned out will keep circulating through the system. When you park the car all the heavy debre will sit in the bottom of the pan and keep building up in your engine.

My 2 cents.

Flame suit on.

Put your flame suit back in the closet. Subaru agrees with you (at least on the turbo models when they were having problems with sludge blocking the oil screens).

Carbon deposits produced by a turbocharged engine can accumulate at the bottom of the oil pan. When changing the oil, always drain the oil through the oil drain plug hole on the oil pan. A vacuum draining device could leave carbon deposits in the oil pan and potentially contaminate the new oil.

http://drive2.subaru.com/Sum08/Sum08_Turbo.htm

Some people think that synthetics are immune to deposits, but that's just not the case. They are more immune but you can't really make generalizations about any oil. It really depends on the application and deposits or sludge won't show up in a $30 used oil analysis. This is why I consider a $30 uoa as being for entertainment purposes only. Sure, wear may be low but that doesn't tell you anything about sludge or deposits.

-Dennis

[Justin.b]

I won't use extractors. I've been working on cars for a long time, and I've have too many thing fall off / break in inaccessible places. All my oil changes over the life of this car will take less time than a single time I need to drop the oil pan to remove part of an extractor tube.

Unlikely? I agree... but I've cumulatively spent weeks fixing things cased by equally unlikely failures.

-Justin

[SpeedmasterBRZ]

Originally Posted by Draco-REX

The stock drain plug isn't magnetic. Get a filter mag and it will keep the shavings in the filter canister for easy disposal.

Hence why I posted if you decide (NEED) to run one. I have seen tons of filter mags and none come close to a good drain plug mag and to drain and clean the pan out. No matter how you suck the oil out you will leave debris in the bottom of the pan going through the oil tube. It was not designed to be used to extract the oil but to check it.

Look under you hood at the oil tube and see that it will not allow a clear shot at the bottom of the pan. If Subaru wanted it to be drain from there, there would be no drain plug and a lot straighter shot at the bottom of the pan.

I have tried and seen so many quick maintenance tools that "save time and money". But, I have yet to see one that holds up to or does as good as job as the "old school drain, clean and fill".