Bilstein b6 + Stock springs

[OND]

Originally Posted by Gforce

Stock BRZ is loose.

Originally Posted by Gforce

The chassis is so good you don't even realize that you had nothing to do with the car remaining pointing more or less where you were going.

You basically admitted what we have been saying in this thread all along just to insult me. I'll take it though.

Originally Posted by Gforce

As for the nerd thinking he is holding the drift angle what's all that tire noise? That's the traction control?

you really are clueless aren't you? Better go back to reading more forum posts and watching more youtube videos to act like you know something. And have fun drifting with both your hands on the controller of your PS4.

[JMon85]

Them B6s + OEM springs tho~ OND r u currently using this setup?

[Gforce]

Originally Posted by OND

You basically admitted what we have been saying in this thread all along just to insult me. I'll take it though.

you really are clueless aren't you? Better go back to reading more forum posts and watching more youtube videos to act like you know something. And have fun drifting with both your hands on the controller of your PS4.

You still wanting the last word?

At least you now admit I've been right all along.

Now if you could just learn to drive....

[JMon85]

Originally Posted by Gforce

You still wanting the last word?

At least you now admit I've been right all along.

Now if you could just learn to drive....

Okok we get it .. You two are mortal enemies .. Go get some ice cream cones alrdy ..

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by Gforce

You still wanting the last word?

Do you see the irony?

[Gforce]

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

Do you see the irony?

Sure do.

[Gforce]

The OP received a useful answer in post #2.

My post #4 (actually just the second reply) provided accurate information from personal experience confirming post#2 and expanding on the reasons why simply fitting Bilstein B6 was a great initial mod and suggesting even cheaper and more effective mods for the money.

After that we get,let us say, an irrelevant digression, starting with an aggressively opinionated and largely useless post #17. That poster seeks the last word for some reason. If I were confined to his level of knowledge I'd not want to keep demonstrating my ignorance but hey, it takes all kinds.

[WRBrzRX]

You're posting garbage in multiple threads with loads of people calling you out. You're telling drifters stop letting go of the wheel in this very thread. Contradicting yourself regularly and calling pre-17s oversteer happy when they are well known to be understeering pigs by those of us who really drive them. You advocate no camber.. maybe it's time to take a break? Just the weekend! See how it feels. For the rest of us I mean.

[Gforce]

If you look at the Top Gear star in a reasonably fast car laps you can see the tendency to oversteer quite clearly. The lower the grip (in the uk that means wet) the worse this gets.

You California guys don't know what you're talking about. Possibly because you think driving on the bump stops is all you need to know.

As for keeping your hands on the wheel I'll take Chris Harris advice over some California canyon carver any day. You guys hardly know how to drive in the dry.

[WRBrzRX]

I moved here 2 weeks ago from a very rainy place specifically to race 86CUP and move up in karting series so slow down on the stereotypes. You might notice the Top Gear car is a 2017 GT86 from the front clip. Stop posting hot garbage. Seriously take a weekend off, it's going incredibly poorly in every thread you've posted in.

[Gforce]

But did you drive on snow or ice? Did you race in the rain? Americans generally think racing in the rain is "too dangerous". This thread is about driving a stock BRZ and whether changing the shocks would improve the drive. The answer is yes. The factory did the same thing.

You could disagree with me but then of course you would be gainsaying the factory.

I post Chris Harris effortlessly drifting the box stock GT86 on a real Formula 1 track and a video of how he thinks you should learn how to do that, in reply to an inane post from some nerd from Dumas Texas who posted a video of his truly hopeless demonstration of "car control". The funniest part of that was his invitation to let him drive me around the track suggesting I would suffer intestinal embarrassment. I am pretty sure he would be correct but not for the reasons he probably thinks. He only stayed on the track by pure luck and the skill of Subaru engineers in making a car that oversteers so readily relatively safe for dummies like him. No experienced driver watching that video would accept a ride. I think an instructor would demand he stop the car and then get out (I've actually witnessed an instructor do that while I was watching a track session waiting my turn.)


The flak I seem to be attracting results from people who disagree with me. The factory agrees with me. I am comfortable with that.

Some tiny mind wants to try and insult me results in an appropriate reply.

There is a review thread of the 2017 BRZ on this board by one of the guys who actually does know a lot, but not about understeer apparently.

Subaru increased the front spring rate and reduced the rear spring rate. I increased the front roll rate with a bigger front bar and fitted 2017 softer rear springs, which I had been looking for since 2013 when I realized this car had two designed in faults to make it easy for any idiot to drift such a low powered car fairly safely: a Torsen with a very tight bias ratio (which is unchanged for 2017) and rear springs that were too stiff.

How exactly is this supposed to turn "an understeering pig" into a more balanced car?

You say you race, you tell us.

[WRBrzRX]

lol you said youve never taken it to a track for any reason and you want to dig into my racing pedigree.. ice, rain, 24 hours, rally, a decade of kart leagues, I LIVE to race and move around to chase particular series

stop being dumb

would a trailer full of karts and sponsors ease your fears? you realize how stupid this has become right? you admit zero experience..

we all know you're going to double down on shit info, its pointless to send you to the tag team RCE/CSG suspension thread as you've already stunk it up there in the last few days but if youve been honestly reading as its developed over the years then we wouldnt be having this discussion as you'd know you have to purposely kick the back end out

go correct Mike, im all set, kisses

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112010

[weederr33]

Yeah I'm not even going to bother asking my question here... I'll just PM someone. -___-

[Gforce]

Originally Posted by WRBrzRX

lol you said youve never taken it to a track for any reason and you want to dig into my racing pedigree.. ice, rain, 24 hours, rally, a decade of kart leagues, I LIVE to race and move around to chase particular series

stop being dumb

would a trailer full of karts and sponsors ease your fears? you realize how stupid this has become right? you admit zero experience..

we all know you're going to double down on shit info, its pointless to send you to the tag team RCE/CSG suspension thread as you've already stunk it up there in the last few days but if youve been honestly reading as its developed over the years then we wouldnt be having this discussion as you'd know you have to purposely kick the back end out

go correct Mike, im all set, kisses

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112010

I invited you to explain how increasing the front spring rate could reduce understeer. I know the answer to that. I'm not correcting anyone although I could.