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Old 06-16-2016, 11:37 AM   #15
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Literally the most confused ive been in a long time man

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Old 06-16-2016, 11:39 AM   #16
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Really unsure how to say, "do not drive until it has been checked out" in a different way.


Let alone going WOT....
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Old 06-16-2016, 11:40 AM   #17
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Ok so you are being serious, good. Gonna take the car to my mechanic later today

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Old 06-16-2016, 11:49 AM   #18
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Your car is fine. If there was an issue you would be showing a check engine light. Don't feed the trolls.
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Only cel i get is for not having a cat in my headers but thats it, thanks man

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ACTUALLY. Here is the deal. Your car probably is running a little leaner than preferred. You have changed how the air enters and exits the engine without compensating for that. You probably shouldn't go WOT much until you tune for the changes you have made.


The backfiring is unburnt exhaust igniting in the exhaust pipe. When you're on decel the fuel is basically being dumped which is what causes that. When you had multiple cats any unburnt fuel was being burned off before you could hear most of that process.


I probably would wind up getting it checked though since you said you were unsure about your air filter installation.
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Your car is fine. If there was an issue you would be showing a check engine light. Don't feed the trolls.


That is also misleading, there can be issues with a car without showing a CEL.
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ACTUALLY. Here is the deal. Your car probably is running a little leaner than preferred. You have changed how the air enters and exits the engine without compensating for that. You probably shouldn't go WOT much until you tune for the changes you have made.


The backfiring is unburnt exhaust igniting in the exhaust pipe. When you're on decel the fuel is basically being dumped which is what causes that. When you had multiple cats any unburnt fuel was being burned off before you could hear most of that process.


I probably would wind up getting it checked though since you said you were unsure about your air filter installation.
Probably? You're contradicting what you're saying. Initially, you claim that his car is running more lean but then you're saying the pop sounds are from excessive unburnt fuel. I had popping noises and crackles from my exhaust with just a catback. The fact of the matter is, modern OBD2 compliant fuel injection strategy is monitored very closely, and almost any small issue will turn on the CEL.
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Probably? You're contradicting what you're saying. Initially, you claim that his car is running more lean but then you're saying the pop sounds are from excessive unburnt fuel. I had popping noises and crackles from my exhaust with just a catback. The fact of the matter is, modern OBD2 compliant fuel injection strategy is monitored very closely, and almost any small issue will turn on the CEL.


I am not contradicting what I'm saying. There will always be unburnt fuel in exhaust. When you get rid of the cats and restrictions that unburnt fuel igniting in the pipes than becomes audible as pops (backfires) and burbles.


The 02's seeing no cat is what triggers the CEL here. In larger terms there can be motor damage with no CEL. That isn't the case here....
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Unburnt fuel is due to a rich condition, not a lean condition.

A completely lean combustion chamber has no fuel in it.

Not only are you a bad troll, you don't know jack about tuning. Go lurk more and let other people actually provide useful help to those who need it.
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Unburnt fuel is due to a rich condition, not a lean condition.

A completely lean combustion chamber has no fuel in it.

Not only are you a bad troll, you don't know jack about tuning. Go lurk more and let other people actually provide useful help to those who need it.
Not even tuning, dude has no idea how fuel injection works.
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Unburnt fuel is due to a rich condition, not a lean condition.

A completely lean combustion chamber has no fuel in it.

Not only are you a bad troll, you don't know jack about tuning. Go lurk more and let other people actually provide useful help to those who need it.
Yeah I can't tell if this dude is really just a dipshit or what
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no tune yet? probably the problem. threw a new intake in? now engine has more air than ecu can know what to do so it threw more gas in there = ¿?
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no tune yet? probably the problem. threw a new intake in? now engine has more air than ecu can know what to do so it threw more gas in there = ¿?
No intake just a drop in filter

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