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jawn · 03-22-2016, 11:34 PM

These cars will also knock with 93 octane, but you do you, playboy.

CatScan · 03-22-2016, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jawn

These cars will also knock with 93 octane, but you do you, playboy.

It will also knock on VP-110 and E85. What's your point?

FRSBRZGT86FAN · 03-23-2016, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Chanpion

The owner's manual actually says 93 octane and do not exceed 30% ethanol I believe. You can read it yourself.

Yup that's from my snippet I had in the my post

FRSBRZGT86FAN · 03-23-2016, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by CatScan

That's in that book-thing in the glove box, right? Strange how well the car runs on E85. And for 87, I just back the plugs out a few turns to lower the compression. Problem solved.

Here, I shall also respond with a picture:

You do your thing, I'll do mine. You panic if you have to over having to use "crap" gas "every now and then".

What tune do you run when you're doing this 87? The stock tune has a hard time with 91 as it is and you think it's alright to subjecting to knock at 87 for a constant time

Did you run E85 without the OFT tune? IT CAN ONLY RUN WELL WITH A TUNE, unlike running 87 once in a blue moon, E85 on a stock tune will actually destroy a good motor, it's equivalent to running fuel over 105 octane

Regardless, the car probably ran like shit in the first case where you keep running 87 because you don't believe anyone, and you're engine may just fall apart eventually or you'll get a P0326 or P0331 code and go crying to a dealer where they may just have the urge to void your warranty

jawn · 03-23-2016, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by CatScan

It will also knock on VP-110 and E85. What's your point?

The car will pull timing with bad gas. No one's denying this. Can you run 87 gas? Yes, absolutely. The car will pull timing, and IAM will drop. That said, with IAMs as low as 0.2 with 91 octane, why would you bother with anything lower than 91 octane? Where do you live that you can't at least get 91 octane? Why would you intentionally run your car at IAMs that low?

But like I said, you do you, playboy.

Hotrodheart · 03-23-2016, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

Or there is always:

What's a manual?

finch1750 · 03-23-2016, 01:24 AM

Dude is using generalities and other fallacies as arguments like they are gospel, ignoring facts posted by other discounting the argument. OP, use 91 or higher. If you are in bumfuck nowhere plan to stop more often or bring gas cans to protect the life of the engine.

IB4L

finch1750 · 03-23-2016, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodheart

What's a manual?

Thats the one without flappy paddles I think

FRSBRZGT86FAN · 03-23-2016, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by finch1750

Dude is using generalities and other fallacies as arguments like they are gospel, ignoring facts posted by other discounting the argument. OP, use 91 or higher. If you are in bumfuck nowhere plan to stop more often or bring gas cans to protect the life of the engine.

IB4L

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Originally Posted by jawn

The car will pull timing with bad gas. No one's denying this. Can you run 87 gas? Yes, absolutely. The car will pull timing, and IAM will drop. That said, with IAMs as low as 0.2 with 91 octane, why would you bother with anything lower than 91 octane? Where do you live that you can't at least get 91 octane? Why would you intentionally run your car at IAMs that low?

But like I said, you do you, playboy.

It's not worth it, make the assumption he's a troll and has no clue what he's talking about or doesn't understand how the tunes work. Look at his past posts for perspective:

finch1750 · 03-23-2016, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

It's not worth it, make the assumption he's a troll and has no clue what he's talking about or doesn't understand how the tunes work. Look at his past posts for perspective:

Wow. Does this forum give out Darwin Awrds? Cuz this dude is gonna murder his engine. Hopefully he runs the motor while the oil is draining so it all comes out to swap every last drop since he's abusing his car that way...

STZ · 03-23-2016, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by CatScan

That's in that book-thing in the glove box, right? Strange how well the car runs on E85. And for 87, I just back the plugs out a few turns to lower the compression. Problem solved.

Here, I shall also respond with a picture:

You do your thing, I'll do mine. You panic if you have to over having to use "crap" gas "every now and then".

Jesus dude come on.

The manual is for the car when it's stock. Your car is tuned for E85.

The actual fuck?

To give an analogy of your logic, it would be as if someone asked what size tires he should buy on his stock FRS, everyone says 215/45/17, and you say get 245/45/18, it'll be fine, ignore the manual! Then your justification is a picture of your car with 18 inch rims.

Tcoat · 03-23-2016, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by CatScan

That's in that book-thing in the glove box, right? Strange how well the car runs on E85. And for 87, I just back the plugs out a few turns to lower the compression. Problem solved.

Here, I shall also respond with a picture:

You do your thing, I'll do mine. You panic if you have to over having to use "crap" gas "every now and then".

Ok Cat. I was going to jump in and say that you are correct in saying that the car can run for short periods on 87 without any real damage but damn it after reading this one I no longer know what your real intentions are.
If serious then you need to stop doing dumb shit like above and listen to the people here.
If joking you need to make sure we understand that it is a joke and stop before taking it too far.
If trolling to just get your jollies from the responses I know a couple of mods that will ban your ass in a second.

Tcoat · 03-23-2016, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by STZ

To give an analogy of your logic, it would be as if someone asked what size tires he should buy on his stock FRS, everyone says 215/45/17, and you say get 245/45/18, it'll be fine, ignore the manual! Then your justification is a picture of your car with 18 inch rims.

No, then his justification would be a pic of somebody else's car picked at random off the internet. The pic he posted is from tune86.com not a picture he took of his own unit. Which he may or may not actually have. http://www.tune86.com/sites/default/...s_image_17.jpg

HunterGreene · 03-23-2016, 10:55 AM

Seriously, CatScan.

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