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Old 04-28-2013, 10:02 PM   #29
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You don't have to say what the flaw is, but you could suggest steps to take that will make the car more secure for honest owners.
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Old 04-28-2013, 10:07 PM   #30
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You don't have to say what the flaw is, but you could suggest steps to take that will make the car more secure for honest owners.
That would reveal the flaw.
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Old 04-28-2013, 10:32 PM   #31
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You don't have to say what the flaw is, but you could suggest steps to take that will make the car more secure for honest owners.
I edited the first post
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Old 04-28-2013, 10:39 PM   #32
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You have made me curious. Can you shoot me a pm with what you found?
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Old 04-28-2013, 10:46 PM   #33
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He mentioned something about a key. Curious as well, I'll send him a PM.
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Old 04-29-2013, 05:29 AM   #34
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.. now im curious lol
also considering how you're sending it out anyways to whomever PMs or asks it isn't much more different than just posting it ..
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Old 04-29-2013, 06:56 AM   #35
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I always lock from my door handle. The tactility feels more assuring than "hoping" it locks remotely plus saves the battery on my remote key. But whenever I've used remote lock on other cars I'd always listen for the sound or look for the lights to flash indicating it's locked. Just common sense. I kind of remember my cars not locking sometimes unless I retried... might've been that security flaw at work. But again, this would never be an issue if you use common sense and develop the habit of confirming it's locked.
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Old 04-29-2013, 07:47 AM   #36
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.. now im curious lol
also considering how you're sending it out anyways to whomever PMs or asks it isn't much more different than just posting it ..
It was my attempt to keep the issue more private as I haven't seen anything related to it through google searches. A couple of messages that I got indicated that this is a kinda known issue with the keys and thieves already take advantage of it.
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Old 04-29-2013, 07:54 AM   #37
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Doesn't hurt to use the remote close to the car then just check by pulling on the handle to be sure it's secure. Got in the habit of doing this 20+ years ago when remotes first came out - they weren't too reliable back then and I never trusted them.

'Course this 'old fashoined' method probably won't work with a BRZ. These days the manufacturers do everything they can to take human interaction out of the cars.
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Old 04-29-2013, 08:45 AM   #38
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These days the manufacturers do everything they can to take human interaction out of the cars.
To put human interaction back in, just use the door lock instead of the remote key fob

Anyway, back to the OP - I'm pretty OCD about locking my cars - I always wait for an audible or visual confirmation before walking out of range. I don't consider this a major security problem. Thanks for the heads up though, like it was said, makes for an annoying prank if you want to harass other Toyota/Scion drivers!
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Old 04-29-2013, 08:49 AM   #39
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I did not know this.

Oh the fun I will have now in the local grocery store parking lot while sitting in my Camry.

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I'm glad you started this thread OP, as I noticed this key fob issue when I had to rent a Toyota Yaris last week. Attempting to lock/unlock both cars (FR-S & Yaris) simultaneously, nothing happened. Although it might seem like a security flaw, the chances of this happening are very slim. However, there is no denying the signal interference you have multiple Toyota key fobs operating within the vicinity.
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if you're worried about someone stealing your car just get low jack..but i dont know how dependable that is. no ones tried to steal my car yet.
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