Major Security Flaw! - Page 2 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

DBacon1052 · 04-28-2013, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Lonewolf

Now many potential thieves know too...

Thanks. I was really on the fence about posting the issue for this reason. I decided to delete it.

deucethemoose · 04-28-2013, 02:33 PM

Good idea. Post it up, decide not to tell Scion Corporate, and then delete it so we can't tell Scion ourselves. You sure are an invaluable member of this community...

DBacon1052 · 04-28-2013, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by deucethemoose

Good idea. Post it up, decide not to tell Scion Corporate, and then delete it so we can't tell Scion ourselves. You sure are an invaluable member of this community...

Who said I wasn't going to call scion? You can always PM me and I'll send you exactly what I deleted.

switchlanez · 04-28-2013, 02:36 PM

I always lock from my door handle. The tactility feels more assuring than "hoping" it locks remotely plus saves the battery on my remote key. But whenever I've used remote lock on other cars I'd always listen for the sound or look for the lights to flash indicating it's locked. Just common sense. I kind of remember my cars not locking sometimes unless I retried... might've been that security flaw at work. But again, this would never be an issue if you use common sense and develop the habit of confirming it's locked.

Lonewolf · 04-28-2013, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DBacon1052

What would you guys do if you found a major security flaw with our cars?
Who would you contact?

Edit: I decided to delete my update identifying the problem as I don't really want anyone (thieves) to find out about it. If you would like to know what the issue is PM me

Shoot an email to Scion corporate and cc it to Subaru America, the nhtsa (fed. safety for cars), and the fcc (they regulate transmitters like this).

DBacon1052 · 04-28-2013, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by switchlanez

I always lock from my door handle. The tactility feels more assuring than "hoping" it locks remotely plus saves the battery on my remote key. But whenever I've used remote lock on other cars I'd always listen for the sound or look for the lights to flash indicating it's locked. Just common sense. I kind of remember my cars not locking sometimes unless I retried... might've been that security flaw at work. But again, this would never be an issue if you use common sense and develop the habit of confirming it's locked.

I always watch my car for the lights to flash before I walk away, but there are some people that rely on technology way to much. This is more of a PSA at this point.

DBacon1052 · 04-28-2013, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Lonewolf

Shoot an email to Scion corporate and cc it to Subaru America, the nhtsa (fed. safety for cars), and the fcc (they regulate transmitters like this).

I emailed nhtsa and scion. I haven't checked if this effects the subaru keys or not (are they the same as the scion/toyota keys?). Who should I contant from fcc? Just one of the commissioners?

DBacon1052 · 04-28-2013, 03:42 PM

If someone can see if this also works withs Subaru's I'd appreciate it. For now I am only aware of this affecting scion/toyotas.

Lonewolf · 04-28-2013, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBacon1052

I emailed nhtsa and scion. I haven't checked if this effects the subaru keys or not (are they the same as the scion/toyota keys?). Who should I contant from fcc? Just one of the commissioners?

The consumer/governmental affairs at the fcc would probably be a good sector to notify...

Area86 · 04-28-2013, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DBacon1052

If someone can see if this also works withs Subaru's I'd appreciate it. For now I am only aware of this affecting scion/toyotas.

Send me a pm and ill check whatever it is on my brz.

eddieEndo · 04-28-2013, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DBacon1052

PM sent

me too plz

OmarGC · 04-28-2013, 05:40 PM

Curious aswell...

DBacon1052 · 04-28-2013, 08:11 PM

Looks like the link was broken in the PM. Here it is http://www.toyota.com/t3Portal/docum.../sec_01-02.pdf

BRZnut · 04-28-2013, 08:48 PM

Can someone clue me in on what this is all about? What flaw??

04-28-2013, 02:33 PM	#16
deucethemoose Functionally Retarded Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: LinkECU V6 MR2 - MKVII Golf R Location: PNW Posts: 709 Thanks: 81 Thanked 425 Times in 205 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s)	Good idea. Post it up, decide not to tell Scion Corporate, and then delete it so we can't tell Scion ourselves. You sure are an invaluable member of this community... __________________ 1991 MR2 - T-tops - Crimson Red - 1MZ-FE 3.0L - Other Stuff I'm not really an asshole, but I play one on the internet.

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switchlanez Glorious BRZ Master Race Join Date: Apr 2011 Drives: Subaru Libird Location: Race Wars Posts: 3,645 Thanks: 1,050 Thanked 2,719 Times in 1,079 Posts Mentioned: 110 Post(s)	I always lock from my door handle. The tactility feels more assuring than "hoping" it locks remotely plus saves the battery on my remote key. But whenever I've used remote lock on other cars I'd always listen for the sound or look for the lights to flash indicating it's locked. Just common sense. I kind of remember my cars not locking sometimes unless I retried... might've been that security flaw at work. But again, this would never be an issue if you use common sense and develop the habit of confirming it's locked. Last edited by switchlanez; 05-02-2013 at 02:02 AM.

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