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Spartan65 · 09-15-2012, 07:39 AM

How much more oil need to be added to the system?

gmookher · 09-15-2012, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

@PERRIN_Chris,
Call me old fashioned,skeptical,Luddite,scared,no idea what I'm talking about, all of the above but could you please re-assure me about these clampless oil hoses? The concept fills me with trepidation.

ok, so here I am exposing myself

Look, dont get me wrong, I totally dig Perrin, and think Chris is a swell guy. I didnt believe him when he told me about the clampless hoses, so I called up MOCAL the manufacturer; and indeed, operationally rated 200psi at 300 degrees clampless. I scratched my head a bunch before putting it all back together clampless, but thats the real deal

http://97.74.32.155/files/phosend.pdf
scroll down to the last page of the pdf

our setup should never reach 300F or 200psi; so even the mocal dude said that clamps would be 'overkill' unless it was for a formula 1 car..

gmookher · 09-15-2012, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spartan65

How much more oil need to be added to the system?

I added almost 3/4 quart!

gmookher · 09-15-2012, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jehu

looks great. very tidy.

also a vote for an off centre mount.
and a question: if the stock oil filter has that 'cup' underneath it to avoid oil spills when changing the filter. does the sandwich adaptor get in the way at all?
what I mean is, or suggest is; would it be a reasonable/necessary idea to implement another cup/tray on top of the sandwich adaptor, so that it's more like the original design, without interruption? but if it's not needed, then all the better!
hope that makes sense.
cheers

its all works as designed once you put the spacer in the OE cup is still functional

tonystewart · 09-15-2012, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ATL BRZ

Maybe this would work?

Excuse my shitty mspaint skills

What size is the an fitting?
What size is the sandwich adapter threads? NPT?

I will order this kit, purchase 90 degree an to npt adapters, and install it via the path you drew, or something similar. There will be enough room, just a little creativity laying the path from adapter to the cooler. It will work.

jpit · 09-15-2012, 01:06 PM

Also, for those eventually ordering this kit - do not add clamps to the fittings for what you believe to be extra security. That can actually cut the hose and cause leaking problems.

Touge Monster · 09-15-2012, 03:43 PM

Looks great want!!!!

Captain Snooze · 09-15-2012, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpit

Also, for those eventually ordering this kit - do not added clamps to the fittings for what you believe to be extra security. That can actually cut the hose and cause leaking problems.

According to the pdf:
"Extra clamping (swagged ferrule, worm drive or Oetkier clamp)
should be considered where very high temperatures are involved."

gmookher · 09-15-2012, 07:15 PM

Yes, and I read that to be for applications where the temps exceed hose's rated 300F. ... if your oils at 300F you have other issues at hand. In that instance they suggest oetiker clamp.

Speaking with Perrin, they've tested the snot out of it and no leaks.

Ravenlokk · 09-15-2012, 09:15 PM

Is there an estimate on price yet for this unit?

Captain Snooze · 09-15-2012, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmookher

Yes, and I read that to be for applications where the temps exceed hose's rated 300F. ... if your oils at 300F you have other issues at hand. In that instance they suggest oetiker clamp.

Speaking with Perrin, they've tested the snot out of it and no leaks.

I agree if you are hitting 300F you have problems somewhere but I was wondering about the clamp no clamp question.

Captain Snooze · 09-15-2012, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PERRIN_Chris

There isn't a port for oil temp unfortunately. The adapter would have to be taller. But there is a port on the engine already for the factory oil temp sensor, which can be Tee'd off to an aftermarket gauge pretty easily.

Can you tell us what thread is on the oil temp sensor?

gmookher · 09-16-2012, 08:34 PM

OK

Oil line popped off - these things NEED clamps,the hose calls for a stepless or oetiker clamp under high pressure use

While this works fine for perrin up in portland, here in AZ its hotter by a bit; the rubber expands more under hot oil...

didnt get to do the group drive, had to pull over as oil leaked out everywhere
part of the price for being a prototype tester..stay tuned

mike2100 · 09-16-2012, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmookher

OK

Oil line popped off - these things NEED clamps,the hose calls for a stepless or oetiker clamp under high pressure use

While this works fine for perrin up in portland, here in AZ its hotter by a bit; the rubber expands more under hot oil...

didnt get to do the group drive, had to pull over as oil leaked out everywhere
part of the price for being a prototype tester..stay tuned

dang I hope you get the final product for FREE! I know I'm not helping by stating the obvious but cleaning all that oil is going to be a PITA

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