OEM Brembo Brake package worth it for me? - Page 3 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Capt Spaulding · 11-01-2017, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by rennlistuser3

OP here

Thanks everyone for your valuable feedback,

I ended up going for the performance pack after learning from people here that Brembo consumables are not that expensive through 3rd party and just as good if not better.

Also, I did want that better suspension as well..

Great!! Let us know how you like it.

WolfpackS2k · 11-01-2017, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris S

The PP was an absolute no-brainer for me. I track my car, and the brakes, wheels, and Sachs shocks/struts are all great upgrades. Also, I don't believe anyone has mentioned how much faster and easier it is to change pads on the Brembos. No need to remove a caliper, simply pull a pin, retract the pistons, pull the old pads out the top and repeat the process backwards for the new pads. First time you change pads on the Brembos, you'll be thanking yourself for buying the PP.

Do you have a special tool retracting the pistons? Because swapping pads on my Cayman (4 piston Brembo calipers front and rear) is a PITA. Considerably more difficult than a quick pad swap for a single piston floating caliper.

Poodles · 11-01-2017, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

Do you have a special tool retracting the pistons? Because swapping pads on my Cayman (4 piston Brembo calipers front and rear) is a PITA. Considerably more difficult than a quick pad swap for a single piston floating caliper.

I've heard this is nice https://www.amazon.com/Lisle-29100-Q.../dp/B005GLQCKA

Also, as I happen to work at a parts store, I looked up brake pads for the normal and brembos... Brembos were cheaper lol

Also keep in mind that even on the street, nobody has ever said "gee, I wish I didn't have these great brakes" right after avoiding an accident because of said brakes...

WolfpackS2k · 11-02-2017, 04:14 PM

Yeah I need that, lol. Also don't forget you have to be careful not to nick the paint, unlike the base unpainted calipers haha.

Porsches also have brake pad sensors which can be a PITA because a lot of aftermarket pads have no where to put them, ugh.

Psilox · 11-03-2017, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by rennlistuser3

OP here

Thanks everyone for your valuable feedback,

I ended up going for the performance pack after learning from people here that Brembo consumables are not that expensive through 3rd party and just as good if not better.

Also, I did want that better suspension as well..

Glad you went with the PP. I also did on my '17 and I absolutely don't regret it. It does feel better than the '16 I test drove beforehand, especially in the brakes department.

rennlistuser3 · 11-03-2017, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Psilox

Glad you went with the PP. I also did on my '17 and I absolutely don't regret it. It does feel better than the '16 I test drove beforehand, especially in the brakes department.

A part of the reason was just to test out these "Brembo Brakes" everyone seems to talk about and just see what all the fuss is about.

Plus, I will admit, I did occasionally overheat the brakes to the point of the brake pedal dropping to the floor while driving enthusiastically on vehicles I've previously owned, so maybe I should shut up about not needing Brembos LOL.

dowroa · 11-03-2017, 12:19 PM

I would think that has more to do with cooling and pad compound than anything else.

You can and will overheat the pads and fluid, if you try hard enough, as I am sure you know.

For the price and the additional content you get, I think it is a great option for the street or up to intermediate use cases.

If we are going to talk about a great solution for this platform, I would be directing you to AP Racing brake solution (sprint or endurance) for a kit I would back (with hub cooling in the endurance kit).

For the price, that is sweet.

For the weight and power of this car, I am not sure why would need more braking and cooling for the brakes than that.

Link: https://www.essexparts.com/essex-des...0325brzfrsgt86

rennlistuser3 · 11-03-2017, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dowroa

I would think that has more to do with cooling and pad compound than anything else.

You can and will overheat the pads and fluid, if you try hard enough, as I am sure you know.

For the price and the additional content you get, I think it is a great option for the street or up to intermediate use cases.

If we are going to talk about a great solution for this platform, I would be directing you to AP Racing brake solution (sprint or endurance) for a kit I would back (with hub cooling in the endurance kit).

For the price, that is sweet.

For the weight and power of this car, I am not sure why would need more braking and cooling for the brakes than that.

Link: https://www.essexparts.com/essex-des...0325brzfrsgt86

haha somewhere down the line perhaps!

Tcoat · 11-03-2017, 04:00 PM

When you consider the value of the upgraded dampers and wheels the brake package is almost free. Why would somebody not get them if they could?

rennlistuser3 · 11-03-2017, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

When you consider the value of the upgraded dampers and wheels the brake package is almost free. Why would somebody not get them if they could?

Aright, I'm gonna totally embarrass myself now and ask a newb question.

So..what exactly is it about these PP wheels that make them such a great value? is it just the weight lose? or is there something else?

dowroa · 11-03-2017, 07:02 PM

The biggest reason, other than fitting the brakes, is that they are 7.5". You can run a 225/235 on there without issue. Please see 04 STi.

Other than that, nothing.

Tcoat · 11-03-2017, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by rennlistuser3

Aright, I'm gonna totally embarrass myself now and ask a newb question.

So..what exactly is it about these PP wheels that make them such a great value? is it just the weight lose? or is there something else?

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Originally Posted by dowroa

The biggest reason, other than fitting the brakes, is that they are 7.5". You can run a 225/235 on there without issue. Please see 04 STi.

Other than that, nothing.

And they look really, really good!

spike021 · 11-03-2017, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

And they look really, really good!

Unless you curb one literally the same night you pick up the car

dowroa · 11-03-2017, 08:33 PM

Oh, I agree. For local autoX and track days, I am just waiting for some foo... people to sell them.

11-03-2017, 12:19 PM	#35
dowroa Old Guy Join Date: Jan 2011 Drives: 16 STi, 22 MX-5 RF BBS, 04 OBS RPA Location: Durham, NC Posts: 293 Thanks: 531 Thanked 187 Times in 136 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I would think that has more to do with cooling and pad compound than anything else. You can and will overheat the pads and fluid, if you try hard enough, as I am sure you know. For the price and the additional content you get, I think it is a great option for the street or up to intermediate use cases. If we are going to talk about a great solution for this platform, I would be directing you to AP Racing brake solution (sprint or endurance) for a kit I would back (with hub cooling in the endurance kit). For the price, that is sweet. For the weight and power of this car, I am not sure why would need more braking and cooling for the brakes than that. Link: https://www.essexparts.com/essex-des...0325brzfrsgt86 Last edited by dowroa; 11-03-2017 at 12:59 PM. Reason: Added a link to the Endurance setup

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dowroa Old Guy Join Date: Jan 2011 Drives: 16 STi, 22 MX-5 RF BBS, 04 OBS RPA Location: Durham, NC Posts: 293 Thanks: 531 Thanked 187 Times in 136 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The biggest reason, other than fitting the brakes, is that they are 7.5". You can run a 225/235 on there without issue. Please see 04 STi. Other than that, nothing.

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