Venting about the stick

[Cole]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Nope even that is gone. At least as a factory option. There could be places that offer custom work at a pretty high price.

That's a bummer. Though, most trucks being sold today aren't even used as trucks so I'm sure that has something to do with it.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Cole

That's a bummer. Though, most trucks being sold today aren't even used as trucks so I'm sure that has something to do with it.

There is that of course.

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Nope even that is gone. At least as a factory option. There could be places that offer custom work at a pretty high price.

Yep. I went truck shopping at the Chevy dealer almost 3 years ago and they told me MT was no longer available, period. I couldn't believe it.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by ermax

Kind of apples and oranges. It's funny how all the AT guys come out to attack anyone who shows concern that the MT is dying.

If your referring to me, not attacking at all, I've owned many MT cars and prefer to have the option. I even said a few posts up I wish I had purchased the CTS-V Wagon when it was available with a stick, as I had wanted one at the time.

Also, I happen to like manual windows......

[ermax]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Pretty funny how some people are so fascinated with MT that they presume anybody that says anything about good AT drives one. Nobody was attacking anything just pointing out the reality of the world.

It was no assumption, it's in his sig.

[ermax]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

If your referring to me, not attacking at all, I've owned many MT cars and prefer to have the option. I even said a few posts up I wish I had purchased the CTS-V Wagon when it was available with a stick, as I had wanted one at the time.

Also, I happen to like manual windows......

My apologies, I took it as you being condescending when you were actually being serious about the roll ups.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by ermax

My apologies, I took it as you being condescending when you were actually being serious about the roll ups.

No worries..it was intended as a bit tongue-in-cheek..

[krayzie]

Too many cupholders.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by krayzie

Too many cupholders.

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by Cole

That's a bummer. Though, most trucks being sold today aren't even used as trucks so I'm sure that has something to do with it.

Most of trucks are sold in luxury trims:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.for...of-luxury/amp/

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

If the general sales of all cars is at 3% then I suspect that in the luxury SUV category the demand for an MT would be well under 1%. Probably more like .001% (with most of those guys on forums such as this).
What really floors me is the almost total disappearance of MT in pick up trucks. There was a day not that long ago when getting an AT pickup was hard to do but now there are almost none with MT even as an option. A buddy went looking for a half ton truck with a MT last year and they simply are no longer available in any make. There is only one heavy duty and the rest are all midsize. Even then they are very few.

The link above kinda says why. Even truck sales are luxury. Then there is this:



Like spinners on Hummers, people don’t really use trucks.

[Cole]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

Most of trucks are sold in luxury trims:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.for...of-luxury/amp/

Neato.

You're speaking to the wrong person about using trucks the way they're intended. I regularly tow Argos, ATVs and UTVs. I'm regularly smashing the undercarriage on rocks and bumps and have been stuck in mud pits more often than I care to admit. And I'm regularly hauling 400+ pounds.

If I'm buying a truck, it's strictly for a utilitarian purpose. I understand that plenty of people who buy trucks buy them as a status symbol, but I'm not one of them.

And again, people buying trucks as luxury items sure as shit don't want to shift on their own. I've actually used a truck enough to know that I'd rather row my own, especially when it comes to towing something through shitty terrain.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

The link above kinda says why. Even truck sales are luxury. Then there is this:

Or, alternatively, the truck on the left has decent paint that can stand up to a car wash, and the one on the right is afraid if he washes the mud off his Subaru paint he'll be left with bare metal.

Not that I'm bitter about our paint or anything....

[krayzie]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

Most of trucks are sold in luxury trims

Like Rolex desk divers.

They don't even sell the Land Cruiser here up north but only the Lexus version.