Official 2016 Camaro Thread With Updates

[Decay107]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Yea, I went and looked in my area after quoting Motor Trend. They are in the 90s here but most of those are convertibles. All for something that to me just says "201x generic automobile" in terms of styling.

And now that they've gone away from truly special engines I can't fathom buying one even if they were significantly cheaper. The M division has gone from making homologation specials (which is awesome) to making comfortable if boring looking cruisers with serious sporting credentials and amazing bespoke engines (which is also awesome), to now making pretty boring and character devoid power trains in boring and character devoid cars. The styling of the E60 M5 was a a miss in my opinion, but when I test drove one that engine broke my brain.

[rosol16]

Originally Posted by jawn

If the standard SS is better than an M4, to them, I wonder how the GT350R is going to stack up.

The 350r isn't in the same category, not only in price but in the reason for vehicle design. The 350r is suppose to be the "track" version while the Camaro SS is not. Also the Camaro SS can be had for around 35k Base. There is one at my local dealership for 38k on a base model. Which is markup for being the new car. The 350r at my local dealership is already sold.(Still sits on the showroom floor) went for almost 70k while it should've been 60kish. The zl1 Camaro is a better comparison for it while still no being a track car. If I had to choose between my 60k "American Muscle" car I would be choosing the one that screams America and has 4 doors and 700+hp.

[jawn]

Originally Posted by rosol16

The 350r isn't in the same category, not only in price but in the reason for vehicle design. The 350r is suppose to be the "track" version while the Camaro SS is not. Also the Camaro SS can be had for around 35k Base. There is one at my local dealership for 38k on a base model. Which is markup for being the new car. The 350r at my local dealership is already sold.(Still sits on the showroom floor) went for almost 70k while it should've been 60kish. The zl1 Camaro is a better comparison for it while still no being a track car. If I had to choose between my 60k "American Muscle" car I would be choosing the one that screams America and has 4 doors and 700+hp.

I wasn't comparing the 350R to the SS. I was comparing the 350R to the M4.

[Joakim3]

Yeah BMW has lost that "BMW" clout around it. They have followed the way of Benz in making big GT cruisers or uber-bargers (grant all have amazing capabilities for what they are) but at the end of the day.... there still big GT cruisers & uber-bargers

The only current BMW's thats worth buying for the sake of saying "I have a BMW" is the M2 and even that is a watered down version of the 1M

If I just had cash to burn through I'd walk straight past a F80/F32 M3/4 or F10 M5 and go straight into getting a E30 M3, 1M or E60 M5 (purely for that absurd V10 engine) due to what those cars represented and their uniqueness in the BMW family tree

[rosol16]

Originally Posted by jawn

I wasn't comparing the 350R to the SS. I was comparing the 350R to the M4.

My apologies

[BRZPDX]

Its unfortunate the Camaro is so ugly. I'm still a sucker for beautiful looking cars, but its the inside that counts right..?

[Joakim3]

Originally Posted by BRZPDX

Its unfortunate the Camaro is so ugly. I'm still a sucker for beautiful looking cars, but its the inside that counts right..?

beauty is in the eye of the beholder lol

I love the new front of the Camaro, it genuinely looks like it wants to hurt you, the rear....

The M4 is a nicer package but the front is to busy in my opinion while the rear could use some work... now the M2 on the other hand , baring the door mirrors (first mod I'd do) the exterior is perfect

[WolfpackS2k]

Originally Posted by jdmblood

81k for an m4 with cloth seats...

Dunno where you came up with that, because the MSRP for an M4 is $65,700.

[jdmblood]

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

Dunno where you came up with that, because the MSRP for an M4 is $65,700.

watch the video

[EAGLE5]

I'm looking forward to a supercharged new Camaro and even more to a super or turbocharged GT350R. If I could get GT350R handling and track reliability with 700HP+, I'd really have to think about it. The car is too big for my taste, but 700HP would make up for that.

If Porsche made a Cayman GT4 Turbo... that'd be something else, too.

Last I checked, there was a guy selling his GT4 reservation for about 5 grand on craigslist.

[fumanchu1]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Yea, I went and looked in my area after quoting Motor Trend. They are in the 90s here but most of those are convertibles. All for something that to me just says "201x generic automobile" in terms of styling.

Hell don't even think I'd spring for one if given a choice between this and a old e46 m3

[fumanchu1]

Originally Posted by rosol16

The 350r isn't in the same category, not only in price but in the reason for vehicle design. The 350r is suppose to be the "track" version while the Camaro SS is not. Also the Camaro SS can be had for around 35k Base. There is one at my local dealership for 38k on a base model. Which is markup for being the new car. The 350r at my local dealership is already sold.(Still sits on the showroom floor) went for almost 70k while it should've been 60kish. The zl1 Camaro is a better comparison for it while still no being a track car. If I had to choose between my 60k "American Muscle" car I would be choosing the one that screams America and has 4 doors and 700+hp.

mkay but it's still cheaper than the m4

[fumanchu1]

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

Dunno where you came up with that, because the MSRP for an M4 is $65,700.

let's see, dealer mark ups, levy/taxes/etc. fees I can see it getting to 81k

[WolfpackS2k]

Originally Posted by fumanchu1

let's see, dealer mark ups, levy/taxes/etc. fees I can see it getting to 81k

Or you could just walk into a dealership and ORDER an M4 to exactly your tastes, at MSRP. You honestly think dealerships are marking up M4s? lol, they're not.

And I didn't even bring up European Delivery, which drops the price another few grand.