Double Clutch vs Synchro wear

[Summerwolf]

Originally Posted by pushrod

lol wut

Float your gears.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Do you still double pump your brakes when you first hit them ..... ??

I know we used to do that, to pump up the lines and to make sure the brakes were still "there".

So, why do I still do that ...... ??


humfrz

Until that fateful day (it happened to all of us that drove single master cars) when the brakes were NOT there! To make matters even more interesting it was almost guaranteed that the E brake was seized solid or the cable was broke. I coasted to a stop around a block or two in my day.

[nickmerronesucks]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Here we go again .......

I just wished that the new, MT drivers, would quit listening to their drunk uncles, about how to shift a MT on modern cars……




humfrz

This was so good. SO GOOD.

[D_Thissen]

Originally Posted by pushrod

lol wut

Theres a little sweet spot where the gears line up. Around 2800 RPM if you let off the gas, you can gently put it into the next gear
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLw0hAtOik4"]How to shift without the clutch (clutchless shifting) - YouTube[/ame]

[jawn]

Originally Posted by D_Thissen

Theres a little sweet spot where the gears line up. Around 2800 RPM if you let off the gas, you can gently put it into the next gear

Yeah, I learned how to do this on my first stick car (years and years ago). My last car had its pressure plate fail while I was driving, so I limped it to a shop without using the clutch. You never know when you might need to improvise.

[ashtray]

I've read the middle pedal wears out the brake pads, so I've been trying to avoid touching it. The far left pedal wears out the clutch plate if you use it too much or improperly. Don't even get me started on how fragile the oil is!

[stugray]

I made a video of shifting the BRZ from 1st to 6th, then all the way back down with no clutch just to prove how easy it was but it was so boring I never posted it.

Some douche was saying that it was stupid to try to teach my kids how to do it while I taught them how to drive MT.
I think it is a good teaching aid to help them understand how it works.
Its not something you want to do a lot because that IS harder on the synchros unless you do it perfectly.

I learned in my Karmann Ghia when the clutch pedal broke completely off.
To get going from a stop I would actually turn off the engine, put it in 1st and start it...

[JoeC]

Originally Posted by stugray

To get going from a stop I would actually turn off the engine, put it in 1st and start it...

on newer cars this is harder to do but on your VW the clutch didn't have to be pressed in for the starter to turn over. that's a great story though

[MuseChaser]

Originally Posted by soulreapersteve

At least you guys have a clutch.


I'll just sit here in the corner of the room, staring at the circle of cool kids as they converse and point fingers while snickering at me.

Dude.. you have GOT to move out of Seattle to a place that gets some sunshine and doesn't rain every day... like Syracuse, NY.. no, wait... we get the same weather you do. Sigh.

[MuseChaser]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Until that fateful day (it happened to all of us that drove single master cars) when the brakes were NOT there! To make matters even more interesting it was almost guaranteed that the E brake was seized solid or the cable was broke. I coasted to a stop around a block or two in my day.

Lol.. yep, me too. Even had to Fred Flinstone-stop my Fiat Spider on more than one occasion.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by MuseChaser

Lol.. yep, me too. Even had to Fred Flinstone-stop my Fiat Spider on more than one occasion.

Happened to me in my 64 Impala and my 58 Chevy wagon. There was no Flintstone them to a stop.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Do you still double pump your brakes when you first hit them ..... ??

I know we used to do that, to pump up the lines and to make sure the brakes were still "there".

So, why do I still do that ...... ??


humfrz

Old habits die hard. All my previous cars were real gems so I know the subconscious brake-pump well. All of it just comes back without thinking. I started double-clutching this one without even noticing. Just know how gearboxes work and don't remember a time when I didn't just do whatever it took to keep it happy.

I just started preaching about it here after reading all the complaints about the gearbox. Never been on a car forum before this one.

[GhostRai]

Originally Posted by D_Thissen

Damn... You beat me to it. OP I know where you're coming from but with modern transmissions I wouldn't worry about double clutching. Hell, when you get really good, you can no clutch shift

Match those revs and just slot that gear right in no fuss just smooth insertion ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[fumanchu1]

Originally Posted by mav1178

assuming proper technique, the only thing you're wearing out more when excessively double clutching is your throwout bearing, and to a lesser extent your pressure plate.

-alex

And the Throw-out on these cars can be a bitch for a lot of people since it seems to be such a shitty quality