Air Flow Poll! - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

JamesBond000 · 07-06-2014, 04:05 PM

What do you think is going to have the most gains?

Short Ram Intake

Drop in Filter

Cold Air Intake

For the 2013 Scion FRS

Bg8780 · 07-06-2014, 04:09 PM

zooki · 07-06-2014, 04:49 PM

Well, considering the stock intake IS a cold air intake I guess you should combine the two in your poll...

steve99 · 07-06-2014, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesBond000

What do you think is going to have the most gains?

Short Ram Intake

Drop in Filter

Cold Air Intake

For the 2013 Scion FRS

Save your money

Most tuners find little or no power in intakes on non boosted cars.

What you save on intake spend on headers if you want results.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41525

about one page in on post above

"MAF turbulence caused by the intake. In the many, many FRS / BRZ setups that have come and gone thru my facility, I have noticed that you would be hard pressed to get a better intake than the stock. Granted that it doesn't look bling enough for most, it really does well when it comes down to it, especially if you're planning to tune it down the road."

Vishnu tuning OFT tell you the same story as well.

Intake manufactures tend to make optimistic claims as to HP increases, in most cases a drop in filter will produce same results without associated MAF re-scaling or other issues.

phrosty · 07-06-2014, 05:48 PM

Only reason I got an intake is because the sound is sexy as hell.

edeekeos · 07-06-2014, 05:59 PM

I would really like a CAI for the sound. My buddies Perrin sounds so beastly, however I can't justify the $$ when the stock air box/CAI does amazing. Not to mention, I really don't want to have to rip the bumper off every time it needs cleaning..

Captain Snooze · 07-06-2014, 06:30 PM

You forgot this one.

jonbonazza · 07-06-2014, 06:38 PM

The only reasons to buy an intake are sound and looks. If you don't care for either of those, buy a drop-in filter and call it a day. If you do want an intake, get a short ram. They will make same power as CAI and you won't need to drop the bumper to install/clean.

Captain Snooze · 07-06-2014, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonbonazza

If you do want an intake, get a short ram.

If you want an intake get a GrimmSpeed.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50492

Bg8780 · 07-06-2014, 07:20 PM

I have the FA20Club CAI. I really like the sound and that's all it really brings to the table. Maybe MAYBE some power after a tune. It is a pain in the ass to replace/clean the air filter.

Unless you like the extra sound it brings. Just get a drop in. If I did it all over again I'd probably look towards the TRD or Grimspeed intake but end up missing the noise the simple tube design brings.

JamesBond000 · 07-06-2014, 07:22 PM

yea someone popped in a reusable drop in after market before i bought and i am hearing that's the same if not better then the intakes lol

Bg8780 · 07-06-2014, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesBond000

yea someone popped in a reusable drop in after market before i bought and i am hearing that's the same if not better then the intakes lol

Awesome! Keep the drop-in and enjoy your new 86!

/thread

FR-Sizzle · 07-07-2014, 11:51 PM

Drop in filters are the best bang for the buck and if you decide to keep most of your car stock. If you decide to get a tune and a full exhaust from headers to cat back, I would go with a CAI or a drop in filter with a upgraded snorkel. Snorkels by them selves I believe dont add much power and if anything lose power if they arent tuned because of all the turbulence the MAF gets from the extra air coming in.

I remember reading somewhere, I believe drift-offices dyno's of the HKS header that they could of gotten more whp if they didnt have the AFE takeda intake installed because the intake was causing a lot of turbulence at the MAF.

But once you start upgrading other parts like your exhaust/headers, a CAI will add more power than a drop in filter. Look at Perrins dyno's and other peoples independent dyno's when they have have header backs or have headers, front/over pipe, cat back.

For example Perrins Inlet & 3 inch CAI which requires tuning, they noted that it added 3-6 WHP on top of the 2.75 inch CAI that didnt need any sort of tuning. The 2.75 CAI had about 4-5 WHP added so the 3 inch CAI added about 8-11 whp total.

JamesBond000 · 07-09-2014, 10:35 PM

Yea we are doing the buddy club headers this week(Straight pipe after headers LOL Loud much?), being that the buddy club spec 2 exhaust already got installed last week. Then the Big Issue The TUUUUNE >.< so many options it is annoying might be a poll just for that topic.

View Poll Results: So What Has the Most Gain!
Drop in Filter	29	58.00%
Short Ram Intake	1	2.00%
Cold Air Intake	12	24.00%
Stock	8	16.00%
Voters: 50. You may not vote on this poll

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07-06-2014, 04:09 PM	#2
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07-06-2014, 07:20 PM	#10
Bg8780 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: '13 Black Subaru BRZ Limited Location: All over Posts: 479 Thanks: 439 Thanked 156 Times in 96 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I have the FA20Club CAI. I really like the sound and that's all it really brings to the table. Maybe MAYBE some power after a tune. It is a pain in the ass to replace/clean the air filter. Unless you like the extra sound it brings. Just get a drop in. If I did it all over again I'd probably look towards the TRD or Grimspeed intake but end up missing the noise the simple tube design brings.

07-07-2014, 11:51 PM	#13
FR-Sizzle Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Drives: brz Location: San Dieg Posts: 245 Thanks: 30 Thanked 84 Times in 52 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Drop in filters are the best bang for the buck and if you decide to keep most of your car stock. If you decide to get a tune and a full exhaust from headers to cat back, I would go with a CAI or a drop in filter with a upgraded snorkel. Snorkels by them selves I believe dont add much power and if anything lose power if they arent tuned because of all the turbulence the MAF gets from the extra air coming in. I remember reading somewhere, I believe drift-offices dyno's of the HKS header that they could of gotten more whp if they didnt have the AFE takeda intake installed because the intake was causing a lot of turbulence at the MAF. But once you start upgrading other parts like your exhaust/headers, a CAI will add more power than a drop in filter. Look at Perrins dyno's and other peoples independent dyno's when they have have header backs or have headers, front/over pipe, cat back. For example Perrins Inlet & 3 inch CAI which requires tuning, they noted that it added 3-6 WHP on top of the 2.75 inch CAI that didnt need any sort of tuning. The 2.75 CAI had about 4-5 WHP added so the 3 inch CAI added about 8-11 whp total.

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