Easiest oil change

[Panda Mao]

or you can just buy an aftermarket magnetic drain plug.....

[dem00n]

Takes me about 7 minutes total. And i don't use that Fumoto crap.

Ironically enough, it takes me more time to put the oil back in the bottle to get it recycled.

[wheelhaus]

+1 for the Fumoto "crap".

So easy and so clean. Only need to raise the front of the car high enough to reach my arm under there. No tools, lifts, or jack stands necessary.

[dem00n]

Originally Posted by wheelhaus

+1 for the Fumoto "crap".

So easy and so clean. Only need to raise the front of the car high enough to reach my arm under there. No tools, lifts, or jack stands necessary.

Or just another thing to fail.

Don't play with parts that don't need to be changed, you'll learn.

Also, why would you raise your car without jack stands?

[supramkivtt2jz]

My problem after purchasing a fumoto valve with a lowered car is that my car is to low for a hydraulic jack.... i have to drive up on a spare piece of 1/2" mdf for that extra clearance. easy my ass

[dem00n]

Fumoto valve is great if the oil plug isn't overly exposed, which is it in the twins. I've seen them on other cars, they're very easy to use. But on this car? Sure, we've no failures.

[wheelhaus]

Fumotos are extremely reliable, they're just an easy target for paranoia. Another benefit is that they are installed once and can be left in place. I've seen far more problems with standard bolts being cross threaded, leaking, overtorqued, broken, forgotten, etc.
There's no need for jack stands because only my arm/shoulder are under the car for the 5 seconds it takes to slide a shallow oil container into place and flip the valve's lever. I can't remember, but I don't believe the tires even leave the ground.

[wheelhaus]

Originally Posted by dem00n

Fumoto valve is great if the oil plug isn't overly exposed, which is it in the twins. I've seen them on other cars, they're very easy to use. But on this car? Sure, we've no failures.

How is it overly exposed? It doesn't stick below the metal belly pan.

[OICU812]

Originally Posted by dem00n

Or just another thing to fail.

Don't play with parts that don't need to be changed, you'll learn.

Also, why would you raise your car without jack stands?

Had them on more vehicles then can recall they're 100% fine and make for less mess. I don't see any issue with them on this car and they're well tucked under and away from hurting anything.

[dem00n]

Originally Posted by OICU812

Had them on more vehicles then can recall they're 100% fine and make for less mess. I don't see any issue with them on this car and they're well tucked under and away from hurting anything.

I can't seem to recall the exact model, but there was a Nissan that was having disintegrating fuel injector seals. This was early in the fuel injection days, Nissan engineering department assured everyone that these seals wouldn't fail because the area was deemed safe and that so many other cars already had them. Sure enough, there was a recall on the seals.

300ZX maybe? No, i think those were fuel line clips. Something in that era.

The point of my horrible story is, you can have any object which works for many applications, but it might cause a castorphic faileure in one that doesn't seem to fit just right. If the oil plug was perhaps in an area that wasn't as exposed as this one, i'd consider it.

To me, this is safe. Sorta, i'd have to see what car this is, etc. Just a random pic.


Our cars our low, i take many things into considerations. Water, random objects in highways, branches, etc.
This doesn't seem safe to me.


It sticks out a lot, a branch at the wrong location and time could easily open that up or even break it off, metal debris?

Oil pans aren't tough, it seems every girl i've dated has learn that the hard way. I keed i keed.

[OICU812]

Originally Posted by dem00n

I can't seem to recall the exact model, but there was a Nissan that was having disintegrating fuel injector seals. This was early in the fuel injection days, Nissan engineering department assured everyone that these seals wouldn't fail because the area was deemed safe and that so many other cars already had them. Sure enough, there was a recall on the seals.

300ZX maybe? No, i think those were fuel line clips. Something in that era.

The point of my horrible story is, you can have any object which works for many applications, but it might cause a castorphic faileure in one that doesn't seem to fit just right. If the oil plug was perhaps in an area that wasn't as exposed as this one, i'd consider it.

To me, this is safe. Sorta, i'd have to see what car this is, etc. Just a random pic.


Our cars our low, i take many things into considerations. Water, random objects in highways, branches, etc.
This doesn't seem safe to me.


It sticks out a lot, a branch at the wrong location and time could easily open that up or even break it off, metal debris?

Oil pans aren't tough, it seems every girl i've dated has learn that the hard way. I keed i keed.

I've got the short nipple version. By time it got hit and ripped off I'd have much larger problems like my whole pan and half the under guts being well...gone. Lol.

I know what you're saying but honestly I looked at this from every angle on our car and where it sits and I think the odds are VERY high for it to get damaged in any way. We"re talking a height reach difference of a quarter inch at best.

[M3_Dust]

Originally Posted by supramkivtt2jz

My problem after purchasing a fumoto valve with a lowered car is that my car is to low for a hydraulic jack.... i have to drive up on a spare piece of 1/2" mdf for that extra clearance. easy my ass

so it's the fault of the oil drain plug that you lowered your car and now you can't fit a jack under it? am I really going to have to deal with these types of posts on this forum? bud, get yourself some ramps or an ultra-low lift point floor jack, the right tools make any job easier.

Originally Posted by wheelhaus

Fumotos are extremely reliable, they're just an easy target for paranoia. Another benefit is that they are installed once and can be left in place. I've seen far more problems with standard bolts being cross threaded, leaking, overtorqued, broken, forgotten, etc.
There's no need for jack stands because only my arm/shoulder are under the car for the 5 seconds it takes to slide a shallow oil container into place and flip the valve's lever. I can't remember, but I don't believe the tires even leave the ground.

definitely

[wheelhaus]

Originally Posted by M3_Dust

so it's the fault of the oil drain plug that you lowered your car and now you can't fit a jack under it? am I really going to have to deal with these types of posts on this forum? bud, get yourself some ramps or an ultra-low lift point floor jack, the right tools make any job easier.

This one might work. It's really low and has a loooong reach. I f anyone would like, I can set mine up (stock ride height, no front lip) and measure clearance for a baseline to compare.

[SOLDIER [X]]

Originally Posted by M3_Dust

all of the contaminants and sediment wind up on the bottom of the oil pan so you are continuously putting that stuff through your engine if you just suck the fluid out the top vs. draining out of the bottom of the pan. sure it's easier but you're not doing your engine any favors

Doesn't the dip stick measure the oil level from the pan? Isn't he pulling directly from the pan in this manner or am I just understanding this wrong?