BRZ D4S bulb ?

[Sportsguy83]

I think its the other way around, the higher the temperature, the less blind you will put on the incoming drivers.

[zAnSh1n]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

Something like that.

so, by your logic, people who run 4300k/3100lm [oem] or 6000k/2900lm HIDs are jackasses on the road??? since they are brighter than 8000k/2500lm...

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by zAnSh1n

so by your logic, people who run 4300k/3100lm [oem] or 6000k/2900lm HIDs are jackasses on the road??? since they are brighter than 8000k/2500lm...

Nope. 4300K is the proper temperature. The jackass in his black Acura Integra with purple lights is not at the proper temperature though.

[zAnSh1n]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

Nope. 4300K is the proper temperature. The jackass in his black Acura Integra with purple lights is not at the proper temperature though.

purple? haha, what is that, like 12000k?

i think you're assuming that the 8000k is solid blue or something, but it's mostly white with a little bit of blue hue... and i see what you're saying, that's why i think anything above 8000k should be left to those drivers you've mentioned...

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

Nope. 4300K is the proper temperature. The jackass in his black Acura Integra with purple lights is not at the proper temperature though.

You have the concept wrong. It's not about a "proper" color. The only thing that can blind the other cars is the highest output possible and then the hadlights pointing in the wrong direction. Having a higher temperature light that produces less brightness has nothing to do with blinding lights. The less brightness, the less blindness


And really there is no "proper" color, there are just standard colors and different colors.

[MRZ415]

Well at least even at higher temps its still brighter
than most halogens... my osram rally h7 outputs 2100 lumies
but my color temp is yellowish white.

[zAnSh1n]

^^^ what they said :]

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by sportsguy83

You have the concept wrong. It's not about a "proper" color. The only thing that can blind the other cars is the highest output possible and then the hadlights pointing in the wrong direction. Having a higher temperature light that produces less brightness has nothing to do with blinding lights. The less brightness, the less blindness


And really there is no "proper" color, there are just standard colors and different colors.

There's a perception of proper color, because past a certain color temperature the LUMEN output is BELOW what the standard halogen is. That's my understanding and I don't care what you say.

[Longhorn248]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

There's a perception of proper color, because past a certain color temperature the LUMEN output is BELOW what the standard halogen is. That's my understanding and I don't care what you say.

The bold portion is correct, as for the rest of the argument you guys are having, carry on

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

There's a perception of proper color, because past a certain color temperature the LUMEN output is BELOW what the standard halogen is. That's my understanding and I don't care what you say.

Which proves my point further, the higher temp, the lower Lumen output so the less the lights will blind other drivers. "Perception" is very subjective your perception is not the world's perception. I get it you don't like it. You don't have to like it. But don't say it bothers more the oncoming driver becasue it doesn't you just said it. Lower Lumens.

[DRACHENV6]

4300k on a proper setup will still get you that blue flicker at the cutoff line. I think the reason why people do 6k+ hid is to achieve that same color effect without projectors. 4300k S2000 headlights look blue when you see them head on unlike those ghetto aftermarket kits because they also have a proper projector.

8000k blue hids with sacrificed visibility + 3000k yellow fogs (glare)?
no thank you


You guys may or may not be aware but the bluer the light, the worse your night vision becomes. Google bleaching of the receptors in your eye (rods and cones).

[Sportsguy83]

^^ I agree with you completely. I will not sacrifice pretty for safety. I will keep the 4300K and I will be ok with them. I just like the blueish color but like I said, I have not owned a car with HID's so most probably I will be extremely happy with the 4300K

[zAnSh1n]

i am well aware of all these drawbacks, "anything other than 4300k = bad," but the difference is very minimal, it really just comes down to the "look"... of course i am not talking about the purple/pink beams [those are the extremes]... i mean, after all, these aren't professional-grade applications or anything...

[zAnSh1n]

Originally Posted by sportsguy83

I will not sacrifice pretty for safety.

statements like this sounds a bit like an overstatement...

yes, it's less output on paper, but would you really notice the difference? i doubt it, especially for standard applications... whether you decide to go with 6000k/8000k instead, it's still nearly 3x brighter than conventional halogens...