Need advice on ticket/suspension

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Originally Posted by 7thgear

when was this

the stunt law is only 5-6 years old (or something)

i too was caught at a relatively high speed back in 03... no inpound back then.

December 2009 was when it happened.

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Originally Posted by ToyoburuBRZ

Not sure how long ago young was for you but those rules have just come into effect in the last 5 years give or take a couple years.

Before than there were no rules like that at all.


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December 2009 here in Alberta.

[Migero86]

Not sure why someone would fight a speeding ticket... you were speeding, got caught... pay the fine. Again we dont have all the details, but if I get caught speeding and I was speeding, the last thing on my mind is oh I am gonna fight this and create red tape. Fuck it, I just pay it and move on.

Sorry for your situation, it sucks, hope it gets resolved for you.

[ZionsWrath]

Originally Posted by Migero86

Not sure why someone would fight a speeding ticket... you were speeding, got caught... pay the fine. Again we dont have all the details, but if I get caught speeding and I was speeding, the last thing on my mind is oh I am gonna fight this and create red tape. Fuck it, I just pay it and move on.

Sorry for your situation, it sucks, hope it gets resolved for you.

hows the view up there?

Why would someone NOT take the ticket to court when it is quite easy to reduce your fine AND violation by doing so. Not sure how it works in Canada but in most places in the US you can plead not guilty, go to court, and they most likely lower your offense if you are not a habitual offender. Some places do not allow this like NYC but why wouldn't you try?

[Migero86]

Originally Posted by ZionsWrath

hows the view up there?

Lol

Sorry if that came out the wrong way guys.

[robwbright]

Originally Posted by Migero86

Not sure why someone would fight a speeding ticket... you were speeding, got caught... pay the fine. Fuck it, I just pay it and move on.

Then you're suffering a larger penalty than you need to. The issue is points on your license and insurance costs.

The fine and court costs are basically irrelevant. You're almost certainly going to pay them unless you can prove that you weren't speeding or that the speed limit changed and the sign showing the change was not visible.

On the other hand, speeding "x" miles per hour over the limit = "x" number of points. "x+y" points = licenses suspension and any "x" points can result in significantly higher insurance rates.

You "fight" it to get it reduced/plea bargained to a non-moving violation or a significantly lower number of miles per hour over the limit... thereby resulting in less consequences in the future.

Fines related to traffic offenses are sources of revenue. Period. Prosecutors and law enforcement really don't care at all about the safety aspects of your speed until you get REALLY over the limit... Neither does the court. They just want the money. It's really just a form of taxation.

As such, you can often get a ticket for 5-14 over the limit reduced to a non-moving and you can often get a ticket for 15-25 over reduced to a 14 or less over the limit... thereby saving you insurance money and points on your license.

But regardless of how far it gets reduced, you're almost certainly going to pay a similar fine and court cost.

People have paid me $200-$500 to get such a reduction... because it makes more sense in the long run.

[Canehda]

Originally Posted by ToyoburuBRZ

In Canada its 50km/h (30 mph) over when they impound your car (no crushing here)

They might as well crush it by the time you add up the impound fees and the actual charge itself which can be up to $10,000

But thats why you get a dash cam so you can sue the f*** out of the OPP when the GPS shows your speed at 120kmh, I can't wait to submit it as evidence and see the look on the cops face

[protpibe]

Originally Posted by Muskokan

My day just took a turn for the worse when I got home. Had a letter saying my license was suspended because I didn't pay a speeding ticket fine. I was expecting the bill, because I fought it and had the statement that I paid off for the ticket specialists. But never got it.

One things you guys gotta understand, this is devastating to me. Not even really the fact I can't drive until Monday. ( not an option, gunna have to be careful ). It's the fact that now my insurance is going to know about that ticket (29 over) which I was really hoping they didn't, And if I'm correct I think it'll also go up because my license was actually suspended. AND also I have to pay $150 just to get my license reinstated.

I scrape by so thin already I go hungry so I can pay my bills, but ALWAYS do find a way. That is one of the reasons I was able to finance by myself, being in debt since I was kicked out at 17. I was just trying to get by until my girl moves back in this summer and then I would be making money. Now because of a fucking clerical error I'm getting fucked from all ways.


Any options other than the obvious of going to pay it first thing Monday?


Why in the fuck are these fines not required to be signed upon delivery if they can cancel your license weeks later without anymore notice? I can't even prove I didn't get it. Now I'm out 100's, probably 1,000s over the years for insurance, I'm beyond pissed right now I'm tired of never doing anything trying to save money, just to be fucked out of what little I have because of a clerical error... FUCXXK

Rant over, fuck you Harper.

First things first, you should sell your car because you can't afford it. A brand new RWD $30,000+ coupe is not a car for someone that has to scrape by to pay the bills. Secondly, get a scooter. And finally, learn to accept the repercussions of your own actions. I get trying to reduce fines or get out of speeding tickets, but you're talking about suspended licenses and multiple infractions. Those exponentially increasing fines and suspensions are there to deter people from repeatedly fucking up on top of their previous fuck ups.

I honestly had to check the date of your post, I thought it was some kind of April fools joke.

[Muskokan]

Originally Posted by protpibe

First things first, you should sell your car because you can't afford it. A brand new RWD $30,000+ coupe is not a car for someone that has to scrape by to pay the bills. Secondly, get a scooter. And finally, learn to accept the repercussions of your own actions. I get trying to reduce fines or get out of speeding tickets, but you're talking about suspended licenses and multiple infractions. Those exponentially increasing fines and suspensions are there to deter people from repeatedly fucking up on top of their previous fuck ups.

I honestly had to check the date of your post, I thought it was some kind of April fools joke.

Lol it was 1 (my only) ticket I never got the final fine for and they suspended my license,
And as stated I only had to scrape by for the winter because my girl was in school and not working, which she will be in 3 weeks.

I admit I was pissed at the time and made my financial situation seem dire,
But regardless of that it still amazes me that complete strangers can read a paragraph asking for aid on a subject and they have to make a point to judge your life and decisions based on that little information and think they know what's best for me.

But that's the all known ignorance of the keyboard warriors.

Anyways payed the fines and got my license back, it was an expensive lesson but I learnt that if you have a ticket specialist dealing with your ticket and it gets reduced, it's his reaponsibility to give you the updated fine. And if he doesn't and you forget to pay cause you think it's coming in the mail, your SOL.

Thanks for the posts with useful information

[Cliu91]

Originally Posted by Muskokan

Lol it was 1 (my only) ticket I never got the final fine for and they suspended my license,
And as stated I only had to scrape by for the winter because my girl was in school and not working, which she will be in 3 weeks.

I admit I was pissed at the time and made my financial situation seem dire,
But regardless of that it still amazes me that complete strangers can read a paragraph asking for aid on a subject and they have to make a point to judge your life and decisions based on that little information and think they know what's best for me.

But that's the all known ignorance of the keyboard warriors.

Anyways payed the fines and got my license back, it was an expensive lesson but I learnt that if you have a ticket specialist dealing with your ticket and it gets reduced, it's his reaponsibility to give you the updated fine. And if he doesn't and you forget to pay cause you think it's coming in the mail, your SOL.

Thanks for the posts with useful information

You're not gonna get any pity from anyone. You paint a picture of how desperate and broke you are, do you really think you're gonna get solid advice? Regardless of whether or not your girl moves back in, you're still gonna be basically living paycheck by paycheck. I suggest you have a backup if you and your girl part ways (knock on wood), cause it seems if shes not there, you are f*cked.

[s2kbobby]

I'm sorry you got beat up there Muskokan. The Internet can be a rough place when your post shows any sign of wrong doing on your part, even if it's just a rant against the system or Harper.


I understand your frustration and hope your relationship with the girlfriend, the government, and the insurance company continues to improve.


You might want to track the car if you can afford it. That way it puts speed in a safe setting and gets the blood flowing too.

[krayzie]

Maybe try a forum like GLP you would get better responses there LOL!

[DR 86]

Originally Posted by s2kbobby

I'm sorry you got beat up there Muskokan. The Internet can be a rough place when your post shows any sign of wrong doing on your part, even if it's just a rant against the system or Harper.


I understand your frustration and hope your relationship with the girlfriend, the government, and the insurance company continues to improve.


You might want to track the car if you can afford it. That way it puts speed in a safe setting and gets the blood flowing too.

Lol the guy can barely afford to eat, how's he going to pay for track fees ($120-$200 minimum a session depending on which track and group), not to mention increased use of gasoline, consumables like brake pads and rotors, and modifications needed to make the car trackable (brake fluid and pads at least, and preferably suspension, tires and cooling)? Do you even track bro? It's not a hobby for the modest of income, never mind the piss poor.

[wparsons]

^^ Suspension, tires and cooling mods are 100% not needed for lapping, and depending on how hard you want to push you can get by on stock pads/fluid too.

I would suggest pads/fluid for anyone tracking, but if you're on stock tires and not pushing really hard you'll be 100% fine for 20-30 minute sessions.

You are right that in addition to lapping fees you will spend more on consumables though, brakes will definitely go faster, plus more frequent oil changes, etc.