300+ WHP Innovate Supercharger, Stock Injectors, E85 and EcuTeK

[DeliciousTuning]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

Okay, what's the flow on these things? I don't know how dual injection works, but on single injection cars with ~500cc injectors people were running 1000cc PLUS injectors to get that kind of horsepower.

I guess really it's about how much overhead there is on stock injectors at HP level. I imagine IDCs are just about maxed?

Just realize you have 8 injectors, not 4. Yes the ports are small at about 225cc or something like that, but add in those direct injectors which maybe close to say ~ 400cc (relative guess) in comparison to port injectors. Now you have yourself what seems like another 600+ cc.

There is a way to run them both with EcuTeK RaceROM, as you need the custom mapping to be able to run 8 injectors versus 4. Basically I found a way to do it and you are the first person to ever really comment on it and ask. So thanks for asking.

Cheers,
William Knose

[Astroboy]

Is this w/ the intercooler? I'm getting this set up

[Turdinator]

Originally Posted by DeliciousTuning

Just realize you have 8 injectors, not 4. Yes the ports are small at about 225cc or something like that, but add in those direct injectors which maybe close to say ~ 400cc (relative guess) in comparison to port injectors. Now you have yourself what seems like another 600+ cc.

There is a way to run them both with EcuTeK RaceROM, as you need the custom mapping to be able to run 8 injectors versus 4. Basically I found a way to do it and you are the first person to ever really comment on it and ask. So thanks for asking.

Cheers,
William Knose

Just so I am clear on this, the stock tune has either port or direct injection running at any time? It doesn't blend between the two?

[xxscaxx]

Originally Posted by DeliciousTuning

At first there were no check engine lights just a weird hiccup at about 6K RPM's under heavy load in 5th gear. Not really anything serious but could never determine what it was. So we ignored it.

After a while it became more pronounced and started throwing P0352 codes for coil pack malfunction on cylinder 2. So we replaced it with the spark plug and all was good.

Cheers,
William Knose

hm...I wonder if this is the issue i'm having. Every once and a while I get what feels like a hesitation or better yet like traction control kicks on with no light, then goes right back to power. I have tried to capture it on a damn data log but every time I do so, it seems I can never catch it lol.

I originally thought it could be a vacuum leak or something. Guess I will have to keep my eye out for this.

What other leak issues have you encountered, other than the few that have been documented on the forums?

[evo4g63]

Good job Bill

[whataboutbob]

Originally Posted by swift996

Just curious if this is on a stock clutch/flywheel? I haven't upgraded mine yet and know that's pushing the limits.

Yes. Owner has 16k on OEM parts. Only a matter of time before time for an upgrade.

[whataboutbob]

Originally Posted by Astroboy

Is this w/ the intercooler? I'm getting this set up

Yes.

[jamesm]

Originally Posted by Turdinator

Just so I am clear on this, the stock tune has either port or direct injection running at any time? It doesn't blend between the two?

No, the stock system uses either or both at any given time, and there are a few tables that control the ratios at a given load/engine speed for different coolant temperatures.

[Mars2]

So that's about 10 more Whp than robispec innovative that had no IC?

http://www.delicioustuning.com/node/152

[phloozy]

Awesome job! Can't wait to get back to modding in the spring.

[DeliciousTuning]

Originally Posted by Mars2

So that's about 10 more Whp than robispec innovative that had no IC?

http://www.delicioustuning.com/node/152

Not completely the whole story.

This one also has a catalytic converter and intercooler. Slightly different.

Too boot we pushed Robi's to the bleeding edge for the track, where as the tune in this post is far more realistic for the daily driver.

Cheers,
William Knose

[Ryan86]

Originally Posted by DeliciousTuning

At first there were no check engine lights just a weird hiccup at about 6K RPM's under heavy load in 5th gear. Not really anything serious but could never determine what it was. So we ignored it.

After a while it became more pronounced and started throwing P0352 codes for coil pack malfunction on cylinder 2. So we replaced it with the spark plug and all was good.

Cheers,
William Knose

Bill, you not going to believe, after 2 weeks of a fixed no leak SC, CEL came on PO351 Ignition Coil Primary/secondary circuit.

[mad_sb]

Originally Posted by DeliciousTuning

Hi All,

Well we managed to break the 300 whp mark with the Innovate Supercharger with some basic upgrades and FlexFuel E85 with EcuTeK RaceROM. With a lot of fine tuning on this car is able to hit 300+ wheel horsepower on a DynoJet Dyno.

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Whats happening from 6500 and up? Everything looks perfectly happy up to that point. If it were pump gas i would say knock retard but on corn that is less likely.

[DeliciousTuning]

Originally Posted by mad_sb

Whats happening from 6500 and up? Everything looks perfectly happy up to that point. If it were pump gas i would say knock retard but on corn that is less likely.

Finally got a chance to look at the logs again. Basically the timing is going flat at this point. I also believe there maybe an airflow limitation on the intake, though I can not verify that, but the airflow values are also pretty flat at this point.

I have another intake from a reputable vendor coming in that I will be testing on my vehicle soon. Along with the a supercharger or two or three.

Also working on some turbo kit tunes next. AVO is one we have been developing with multiple boost map options. But we have a coupe other kits we are looking into also.

Lot of new developments for next year so keep an eye out.

Cheers,
William Knose