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Hal@Dynosty · 12-12-2013, 12:43 PM

Great work and nice looking curves!

DeliciousTuning · 12-12-2013, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sw20kosh

What does this car make on 91

Well, we have a number but found out this car had a bad coil pack (#2) and caused the power to be down about 15 horsepower across the board. So I do not have a real number for 91 octane.

But we have another car that made I believe 225 on 91 octane on our dyno with full exhaust, stock headers, 70mm pulley and intecooler.

E85 is the way to go.

Cheers,
William Knose

DeliciousTuning · 12-12-2013, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by swift996

Just curious if this is on a stock clutch/flywheel? I haven't upgraded mine yet and know that's pushing the limits.

Surprisingly this car still has a stock clutch and flywheel with about 16K on the engine/tranny. I am a little surprised myself.

Cheers,
William Knose

suaveflooder · 12-12-2013, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeliciousTuning

Well, we have a number but found out this car had a bad coil pack (#2) and caused the power to be down about 15 horsepower across the board. So I do not have a real number for 91 octane.

But we have another car that made I believe 225 on 91 octane on our dyno with full exhaust, stock headers, 70mm pulley and intecooler.

E85 is the way to go.

Cheers,
William Knose

EXACTLY!! Especially with FI. GREAT NUMBERS!

sw20kosh · 12-12-2013, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeliciousTuning

Well, we have a number but found out this car had a bad coil pack (#2) and caused the power to be down about 15 horsepower across the board. So I do not have a real number for 91 octane.

But we have another car that made I believe 225 on 91 octane on our dyno with full exhaust, stock headers, 70mm pulley and intecooler.

E85 is the way to go.

Cheers,
William Knose

Thanks. 225 in comparison mode or regular heartbreaker mode

DeliciousTuning · 12-12-2013, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sw20kosh

Thanks. 225 in comparison mode or regular heartbreaker mode

Heart breaker mode. Though I will need to check exactly what it was.

I have seen problems with a couple kits with leaks on various kits, bad coil packs, various exhaust systems, intakes and missing parts causing lower power numbers than expected. Though these are what numbers are to be expected.

Cheers,
William Knose

OrbitalEllipses · 12-12-2013, 02:10 PM

Alcohol fuel, no care.

We appreciate the time you spent tuning and the power made (benchmark baby!), but EtOH only applies to a minority of the tuner world.

sw20kosh · 12-12-2013, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DeliciousTuning

Heart breaker mode. Though I will need to check exactly what it was.

I have seen problems with a couple kits with leaks on various kits, bad coil packs, various exhaust systems, intakes and missing parts causing lower power numbers than expected. Though these are what numbers are to be expected.

Cheers,
William Knose

Can you please share how the bad coil packs were diagnosed? Any signs or did you just replace them and the power came up?

DeliciousTuning · 12-12-2013, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sw20kosh

Can you please share how the bad coil packs were diagnosed? Any signs or did you just replace them and the power came up?

At first there were no check engine lights just a weird hiccup at about 6K RPM's under heavy load in 5th gear. Not really anything serious but could never determine what it was. So we ignored it.

After a while it became more pronounced and started throwing P0352 codes for coil pack malfunction on cylinder 2. So we replaced it with the spark plug and all was good.

Cheers,
William Knose

mkivsoopra · 12-12-2013, 03:59 PM

wow, great numbers! How much power are the stock injectors good for on E85?

DeliciousTuning · 12-12-2013, 05:00 PM

So far I believe we can net about 350-400 whp on a DynoJet on stock injectors. Though still need to actually do it, but I think it is doable.

Cheers,
William Knose

OrbitalEllipses · 12-12-2013, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DeliciousTuning

So far I believe we can net about 350-400 whp on a DynoJet on stock injectors. Though still need to actually do it, but I think it is doable.

Cheers,
William Knose

On ethanol?!

DeliciousTuning · 12-12-2013, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

On ethanol?!

Yeah, I have a few little tricks up my sleeve with EcuTeK RaceROM.

OrbitalEllipses · 12-12-2013, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DeliciousTuning

Yeah, I have a few little tricks up my sleeve with EcuTeK RaceROM.

Okay, what's the flow on these things? I don't know how dual injection works, but on single injection cars with ~500cc injectors people were running 1000cc PLUS injectors to get that kind of horsepower.

I guess really it's about how much overhead there is on stock injectors at HP level. I imagine IDCs are just about maxed?

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