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Turdinator · 08-26-2013, 11:41 PM

You would know if it were from a bearing in there.

Muaddib · 08-27-2013, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dipstik-sportech

We're thinking it's one of the balls from the no.4 transmission clutch hub the synchronizer key spring ball. Could this be the cause of all the grinding trannys?!

The plot thickens.

markitect · 08-27-2013, 09:24 AM

If you've checked everything, and haven't found a problem don't forget it could have fallen in while they were building, and they just put in a new bearing without, making sure they got all the balls.

Dipstik-sportech · 08-27-2013, 09:57 AM

I highly doubt that but I'm hoping.

DJCarbine · 08-27-2013, 12:12 PM

10 Schrute bucks that its somehow related to the shift detent system

Dipstik-sportech · 08-27-2013, 12:40 PM

It might very well be but the grinding going into 4th makes me think synchro Friday or Saturday. I don't get how this fell out though that's what's baffling.

kiichiro · 08-27-2013, 04:20 PM

Mind blowing

Trigonx · 08-27-2013, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dipstik-sportech

Well it's coming out and apart this weekend. Does anyone know where to find an exploded diagram or An fsm for this transmission?

link to Service Manuel Thread - http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35279

Dipstik-sportech · 09-02-2013, 03:59 PM

So the tranny is junk. There's a flaw in the design of the synchro sleeve that allows the balls to be able to fall out causing the failure. My local subaru dealer says they can't get parts in time for my race this coming weekend and no one has a tranny lying around up here. 4th gear it self and the synchro sleeve with the balls and spring need to be replaced. Could this be the cause of all the 4th gear grinds we're having... I 100% believe it is.

Ben_G · 09-02-2013, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dipstik-sportech

So the tranny is junk. There's a flaw in the design of the synchro sleeve that allows the balls to be able to fall out causing the failure. My local subaru dealer says they can't get parts in time for my race this coming weekend and no one has a tranny lying around up here. 4th gear it self and the synchro sleeve with the balls and spring need to be replaced. Could this be the cause of all the 4th gear grinds we're having... I 100% believe it is.

That sux dude.... subbing this thread to see if SoC gives you a hard time with this warranty...

Dipstik-sportech · 09-02-2013, 04:15 PM

I really doubt they will warranty it. My car is modded quite a bit and they claim that's why it failed.

Ruben_86_ · 12-28-2022, 05:08 PM

I have occasional scratches when changing to 4th gear, today I was going to change the oil but I found this ball.

surely change to another used trans, but I wanted to know if there is any danger of using the car like this.

08-27-2013, 09:57 AM	#18
Dipstik-sportech Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: 2013 BRZ satin white pearl sportech Location: Thunder Bay Ontario Canada Posts: 1,813 Thanks: 842 Thanked 911 Times in 576 Posts Mentioned: 43 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I highly doubt that but I'm hoping. __________________ 2013 SWP BRZ sportech. 11.11sec@129.01mph, 511whp on e70. FullBlown base kit, FullBlown built 9.5:1 engine, GTX3076R GEN2 turbo, 1700cc Bosch injectors, FullBlown flex fuel kit, FullBlown radiator and oil cooler, FullBlown custom 3" dual exit exhaust, act xtreme clutch, whiteline diff and subframe inserts, BC Racing coilovers, hotchkiss 18mm rear sway, is300 3.73 differential ... Never finished

08-27-2013, 12:12 PM	#19
DJCarbine Thupercharged Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: La Grange Park, IL. Posts: 1,501 Thanks: 116 Thanked 751 Times in 439 Posts Mentioned: 23 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	10 Schrute bucks that its somehow related to the shift detent system __________________ 2013 FRS Vortech V3 11psi Revworks UEL - PLM Overpipe - MOTIV catted frontpipe - Invidia Q300 2019 Series.Grey STI - Stage1+ SF

08-27-2013, 12:40 PM	#20
Dipstik-sportech Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: 2013 BRZ satin white pearl sportech Location: Thunder Bay Ontario Canada Posts: 1,813 Thanks: 842 Thanked 911 Times in 576 Posts Mentioned: 43 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It might very well be but the grinding going into 4th makes me think synchro Friday or Saturday. I don't get how this fell out though that's what's baffling. __________________ 2013 SWP BRZ sportech. 11.11sec@129.01mph, 511whp on e70. FullBlown base kit, FullBlown built 9.5:1 engine, GTX3076R GEN2 turbo, 1700cc Bosch injectors, FullBlown flex fuel kit, FullBlown radiator and oil cooler, FullBlown custom 3" dual exit exhaust, act xtreme clutch, whiteline diff and subframe inserts, BC Racing coilovers, hotchkiss 18mm rear sway, is300 3.73 differential ... Never finished

09-02-2013, 03:59 PM	#23
Dipstik-sportech Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: 2013 BRZ satin white pearl sportech Location: Thunder Bay Ontario Canada Posts: 1,813 Thanks: 842 Thanked 911 Times in 576 Posts Mentioned: 43 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So the tranny is junk. There's a flaw in the design of the synchro sleeve that allows the balls to be able to fall out causing the failure. My local subaru dealer says they can't get parts in time for my race this coming weekend and no one has a tranny lying around up here. 4th gear it self and the synchro sleeve with the balls and spring need to be replaced. Could this be the cause of all the 4th gear grinds we're having... I 100% believe it is. Attached Images __________________ 2013 SWP BRZ sportech. 11.11sec@129.01mph, 511whp on e70. FullBlown base kit, FullBlown built 9.5:1 engine, GTX3076R GEN2 turbo, 1700cc Bosch injectors, FullBlown flex fuel kit, FullBlown radiator and oil cooler, FullBlown custom 3" dual exit exhaust, act xtreme clutch, whiteline diff and subframe inserts, BC Racing coilovers, hotchkiss 18mm rear sway, is300 3.73 differential ... Never finished

09-02-2013, 04:15 PM	#25
Dipstik-sportech Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: 2013 BRZ satin white pearl sportech Location: Thunder Bay Ontario Canada Posts: 1,813 Thanks: 842 Thanked 911 Times in 576 Posts Mentioned: 43 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I really doubt they will warranty it. My car is modded quite a bit and they claim that's why it failed. __________________ 2013 SWP BRZ sportech. 11.11sec@129.01mph, 511whp on e70. FullBlown base kit, FullBlown built 9.5:1 engine, GTX3076R GEN2 turbo, 1700cc Bosch injectors, FullBlown flex fuel kit, FullBlown radiator and oil cooler, FullBlown custom 3" dual exit exhaust, act xtreme clutch, whiteline diff and subframe inserts, BC Racing coilovers, hotchkiss 18mm rear sway, is300 3.73 differential ... Never finished

08-27-2013, 09:24 AM	#17
markitect Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Drives: Scion FRS Location: Michigan Posts: 216 Thanks: 17 Thanked 59 Times in 39 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If you've checked everything, and haven't found a problem don't forget it could have fallen in while they were building, and they just put in a new bearing without, making sure they got all the balls.

08-27-2013, 04:20 PM	#21
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12-28-2022, 05:08 PM	#26
Ruben_86_ Member Join Date: Sep 2022 Drives: Toyota GT86 Location: spain Posts: 70 Thanks: 53 Thanked 57 Times in 27 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I have occasional scratches when changing to 4th gear, today I was going to change the oil but I found this ball. surely change to another used trans, but I wanted to know if there is any danger of using the car like this.

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