3 weeks in with the RS4

[BRZPDX]

So I'd like to report on the differences between the BRZ and the RS4. This may help those that are considering ditching their cars since you want the next cool shiny thing, or got "bored" with the car.

From the outside prospective now, you guys look like a bunch of guys with that hot crazy girl friend that you got bored fucking. Now you want "stability" and done with crazy girls, a girl you can take home to your parents. You expect her to be still fun, crazy in bed, sacrificing a little bit of looks, but still want the whole package without the unreliable craziness.

I'm sorry to say but you will need to keep your crazy hot girlfriend BRZ on the side, and get a stable calm "keeper" DD. You won't get both in one package, ever.

I wanted to accomplish the "everything car", and I would assume that the B7 RS4 may be one of the most exciting sedan to drive (M3, M4, C63 AMG etc), raw and the "precise" steering. Yea right, it is nothing like driving the twins.

420hp V8, and it doesn't feel fast because its so damn stable. It understeers like a goddamn asshole, feed back is numb, and feels very very heavy. Straight line acceleration is smooth but doesn't have the old turbo lag kick like my BRZ does. Seating position, although Recaro seats, is still high. The connected feeling is not there like the BRZ, and the steering response is much slower. I'm looking at a tuning solution already, which is sad. First world problems. Oh and I'm listening to FM radio since the head unit is a dino. Working on this car is a BITCH, and the ECU/electronics freak out if you change anything. Price for aftermarket parts for these cars? hahaha

Now for the good parts: I was able to take my clients out without switching to my company car, which was less of a hassle. Exhaust note is intoxicating, and interior is much nicer with full carbon fiber/leather. The big ass trunk, the utility over all is awesome, and not worrying about scraping every where is awesome too. N/A throttle response is also good, I got so used to turbo lag that it jolted me when on/off throttle. I love how the car looks, mix between sleeper and aggressiveness, which to the right people they know exactly what it is, and the people that don't, its just another Audi.

So in the end, a dedicated sports car + DD is the ONLY way to go, without wanting more and making your DD something its not. Unfortunately I didn't have the luxury to do so, and I tried to get something that can do everything. So I am a bit confused with the "everything car" popularity, which these cars do NONE of it excellently (Harsher ride, gas guzzling, high maintenance, etc).

Don't get me wrong, I love the RS4 so far, but I am not fooling my self that this is a better sports car than my BRZ. In every aspect.

TLDR; Sports Sedans does everything poorly, will never replace true sports car, you need 2 cars to fully enjoy both sides of the world. But RS4 still kicks ass.

[asphaltfrs2014]

Are these more words of wisdom, written while seated upon the throne like your other literary creations? haha

[BRZPDX]

I had thai food

[m.box.design]

The biggest benefit and downfall of the twins is that they are a niche car aimed to fill the enthusiast-but-not-a-baller crowd. It's a great platform for driving and begs to be tossed around, it's raw yet underpowered to keep it tame. The gas mileage is good for daily driving, and the rear seats and trunk space provide ample support in times of emergency porting of extra passengers and light luggage. It offers some practicality, but does not accommodate for all situations.

I think sports sedans like the RS4 are more refined and mature. They offer creature comforts and provide a more solid ride experience in terms of comfort. These sorts of cars offer top notch performance, yet might seem dull when compared to a lightweight sports coupe which has compromised comfort for fun.

So.. yes, the only option is to have a multi car garage and a fat wallet to fill that garage with toys and utility.

[stockysnail]

Best of both worlds in a cheap package? Used Nissan Leaf to commute $10k used, and a Dodge Neon SRT4 $8k used. That's on a small wallet, yet lots of fun and may be what I'd get if I sold both my beasts to go the cheap route for a while.

[juliog]

I'm disappointed this wasn't a review of the Hankook RS4 tires :P

[Decay107]

Honestly, I feel like the RS\M3\AMGs are better cars in like 95% of circumstances, but that other 5%... Well, that's why you see so many people with "weekend cars" and "fun cars" in addition to a daily driver. And as for maintenance, at least you don't have an engine-out service every 60k miles, I mean that's basically Ferrari level bullshit!

...also at least you're back in a manual.



And @indesign doesn't have to be a fat wallet! You can drive a rusty beater alongside the 86 like me.

[Chen]

Originally Posted by stockysnail

Best of both worlds in a cheap package? Used Nissan Leaf to commute $10k used, and a Dodge Neon SRT4 $8k used. That's on a small wallet, yet lots of fun and may be what I'd get if I sold both my beasts to go the cheap route for a while.

Speaking of which. I saw your brz listed on Craigs again.

[Decay107]

Originally Posted by stockysnail

Best of both worlds in a cheap package? Used Nissan Leaf to commute $10k used, and a Dodge Neon SRT4 $8k used. That's on a small wallet, yet lots of fun and may be what I'd get if I sold both my beasts to go the cheap route for a while.

But... But... RWD!?!

For me it would be a Buick Roadmaster wagon with a built LT1 for about $3k, and a nice S2000 for $15k (or an FD if I'm feeling particularly masochistic)

[m.box.design]

I just wish I had cars like @torqdork . Frs for weekend fun, fj cruiser for city and offroad navigation, and a 2000gt for collector's fantasy.

[Chen]

Originally Posted by indesign

I just wish I had cars like @torqdork . Frs for weekend fun, fj cruiser for city and offroad navigation, and a 2000gt for collector's fantasy.

Nice little toyota family.

[torqdork]

Originally Posted by stockysnail

Best of both worlds in a cheap package? Used Nissan Leaf to commute $10k used, and a Dodge Neon SRT4 $8k used. That's on a small wallet, yet lots of fun and may be what I'd get if I sold both my beasts to go the cheap route for a while.

I'd be inclined to get a 2nd-3rd Gen Prius (wouldn't have to pack an extension cord, 600 mile range) and MR2 Spyder (nearly a motorcycle), both run on regular, have modern safety and convenience features, are reasonable to insure and with $2 gas, used Prius prices have cratered.

Together, figure $20K +/- for a fun (with proper tires, Prius handles better than expected), reliable, economical all weather stable.

[RobertPaulson]

I'm just waiting to pay off my twin, then i'm going to pick up a nice car for Marla and i'm taking her car (a lovely mazda p5) to use as my daily beater. But i'm happy that for the time being, the twin fits all my needs and desires in a car. Sure something in 4 doors will be nice at some point, but that's what the P5 and whatever i get for Marla will be for.

[Chen]

Originally Posted by torqdork

I'd be inclined to get a 2nd-3rd Gen Prius (wouldn't have to pack an extension cord, 600 mile range) and MR2 Spyder (nearly a motorcycle), both run on regular, have modern safety and convenience features, are reasonable to insure and with $2 gas, used Prius prices have cratered.

Together, figure $20K +/- for a fun (with proper tires, Prius handles better than expected), reliable, economical all weather stable.

Id get a Prius. I saw a stanced one that looked good. Dropped and wheels totally change the appearance of those things.