follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Speed By Design
Register Garage Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > Technical Topics > Software Tuning

Software Tuning Discuss all software tuning topics.

Register and become an FT86Club.com member. You will see fewer ads

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 01-25-2014, 06:07 PM   #1
Luckrider
My Other Ride's a Jeep
 
Luckrider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Drives: 2013 BRZ Limited
Location: United States
Posts: 893
Thanks: 431
Thanked 253 Times in 198 Posts
Mentioned: 16 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Ethanol Vs Gas Cranking

I am currently working on improving cold start with e85 (mine is pretty good now, but it has been a bit blind). I am shooting for a second revision and I am hoping to put a little more science into the tuning. Does anyone have useful formulas for determining fuel mix flashpoints? I found this: http://www.dnr.mo.gov/pubs/pub2240.pdf

That link had a bit of useful information, but I am trying to use it a little better. That does seem to jive with the cold start temps issues that people are having since the flash point of ethanol is above 60 degrees and gas (No ethanol) is about -45. The Wikipedia table for autoignition jives with the fact that e85 is safer for boost.
Luckrider is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Luckrider For This Useful Post:
Terrapin77 (01-26-2014)
Old 01-25-2014, 07:05 PM   #2
ciro
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Drives: Scion FR-S
Location: minnesota
Posts: 240
Thanks: 61
Thanked 84 Times in 49 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
you might have higher levels of water in your gas because of the ethanol????
ciro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2014, 09:44 PM   #3
Luckrider
My Other Ride's a Jeep
 
Luckrider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Drives: 2013 BRZ Limited
Location: United States
Posts: 893
Thanks: 431
Thanked 253 Times in 198 Posts
Mentioned: 16 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
I am not having cranking issues myself. I am currently working with @shiv@vishnu to further improve the driveability of his OTS tunes. I think this second revision is looking really good. Here are my cold start videos:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdXILwaWxxg"]VID 20140124 112851 - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mws6n7lW-8U"]Another cold start. Actual temp: 17° - YouTube[/ame]

The second shows 27 degrees on the dash which I would have preffered, but it was actually about 17. It dropped quickly after filming.
Luckrider is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
cranking noise when steering? dad&sonFRS Issues | Warranty | Recalls / TSB 27 06-10-2019 09:04 PM
Non ethanol gas reesmicm Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 21 08-21-2013 03:14 PM
Ethanol Andrew666 AUSTRALIA 30 08-09-2013 09:13 AM
91 w/o Ethanol, or 93 with 10%? Superhatch Engine, Exhaust, Transmission 21 05-20-2013 11:07 AM
Gas Stations without Ethanol norsamerican BRZ First-Gen (2012+) — General Topics 8 02-22-2013 01:12 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:56 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2026 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.