Keyless access option on limited - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

brzninja · 04-10-2012, 11:02 AM

I searched the forums and couldn't find anything on this but will the keyless access option be available upgrade for the premium model (like the fog lights)? Or is it only on limited models?

Thank you!

Subie · 04-10-2012, 11:03 AM

I think you have the trims backward.

Ryephile · 04-10-2012, 11:09 AM

Premium has the normal key w/built in remote.

Limited is the higher trim level with the "Keyless access with push button start".

The Keyless system has 6 proximity sensors throughout the car along with associated wiring, capacitive-touch door handles, and a different center IP stack that also has the auto HVAC, which itself is more complicated than the manual HVAC. Adding the Keyless access to a Premium car would likely be more expensive than simply buying a Limited to begin with.

CLTBRZ · 04-10-2012, 11:09 AM

The Premium has a keyfob with keyless entry (i.e. you press a button on the keyfob and the doors unlock, you turn the key in the ignition to start the vehicle).

The Limited has a proximity keyfob (i.e. you touch a spot on the door handle to lock/unlock the doors, and push button start)

The Limited's method will not be available as an option on the Premium.

sure74 · 04-10-2012, 12:07 PM

Does anyone have experience with the Toyota push to start in a MT vehicle? I know that the Prius can be running but if the proximity keyfob is not in range you can not shift the car out of park and drive it away (great for quick 7-11 stops). Wondering if the ability to drive the car is disabled (and how) when the car is running but the key is not present?

TOYSTRY · 04-10-2012, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sure74

Does anyone have experience with the Toyota push to start in a MT vehicle? I know that the Prius can be running but if the proximity keyfob is not in range you can not shift the car out of park and drive it away (great for quick 7-11 stops). Wondering if the ability to drive the car is disabled (and how) when the car is running but the key is not present?

Good question. I have push start in my 2011 4Runner but it's an auto. Wondering how the push start works on a manual?

DEC1 · 04-10-2012, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TOYSTRY

Good question. I have push start in my 2011 4Runner but it's an auto. Wondering how the push start works on a manual?

A manual requires the clutch to be depressed on starting, after that it doesnt care if the key is there or not...you're fine until you get to your next destination and turn off the car...then there's no starting it back up until the key is in range again...
I believe this is called the "oh crap the key fob is in my wife's purse...now what am I going to do?" feature...

Silverhks · 04-10-2012, 03:37 PM

Surely the car shuts off if the fob gets out of range?

powertrip · 04-10-2012, 03:45 PM

No, its a safety feature in case for instance the battery in the fob dies you wouldnt want your car to turn itself off in rush hour traffic. Therefore once started fob is irrelevant until attempting to start the car again.

OrbitalEllipses · 04-10-2012, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sure74

Does anyone have experience with the Toyota push to start in a MT vehicle? I know that the Prius can be running but if the proximity keyfob is not in range you can not shift the car out of park and drive it away (great for quick 7-11 stops). Wondering if the ability to drive the car is disabled (and how) when the car is running but the key is not present?

More like great for moving violations.

sure74 · 04-10-2012, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

More like great for moving violations.

Can't say I understand that comment but no need to explain.

Not saying it should turn off the car if you throw the key fob out the window at 100mph but it would be nice if it limited fuel or did something safe to prevent someone from driving it away when parked.

bladesamurai · 04-10-2012, 04:40 PM

I think the safe way to handle that is to turn the car off when you aren't driving it. I don't understand why people leave their cars running in the parking lot when they go into stores.

sure74 · 04-10-2012, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bladesamurai

I think the safe way to handle that is to turn the car off when you aren't driving it. I don't understand why people leave their cars running in the parking lot when they go into stores.

If the car cannot be driven then there is no harm but I agree with you, I would never leave it running with the key in it and if the push start for MT doesn't prevent a 'joy rider' from taking a spin I will shut it down for sure.

dookie11 · 04-10-2012, 05:06 PM

Funny how the semantics works with the BRZ. Premium is the lower trim, and Limited is the higher trim. From looking at the words, you'd just assume Limited means it's LIMITED in options, LOL, and Premium is HIGHER/BETTER

04-10-2012, 11:09 AM	#3
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dookie11 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Drives: Girls crazy with his booty Location: SoCal Posts: 1,123 Thanks: 373 Thanked 63 Times in 41 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Funny how the semantics works with the BRZ. Premium is the lower trim, and Limited is the higher trim. From looking at the words, you'd just assume Limited means it's LIMITED in options, LOL, and Premium is HIGHER/BETTER __________________

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Subie Señor Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 2013 SSM DZE BRZ Location: SC Posts: 947 Thanks: 728 Thanked 405 Times in 196 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I think you have the trims backward.

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CLTBRZ Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: DGM DZE/01 Location: Charlotte, NC, USA Posts: 125 Thanks: 47 Thanked 24 Times in 17 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The Premium has a keyfob with keyless entry (i.e. you press a button on the keyfob and the doors unlock, you turn the key in the ignition to start the vehicle). The Limited has a proximity keyfob (i.e. you touch a spot on the door handle to lock/unlock the doors, and push button start) The Limited's method will not be available as an option on the Premium.

04-10-2012, 12:07 PM	#5
sure74 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: 2016 Toyota 4Runner Trail Premium Location: NY Posts: 189 Thanks: 65 Thanked 160 Times in 41 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Does anyone have experience with the Toyota push to start in a MT vehicle? I know that the Prius can be running but if the proximity keyfob is not in range you can not shift the car out of park and drive it away (great for quick 7-11 stops). Wondering if the ability to drive the car is disabled (and how) when the car is running but the key is not present?

04-10-2012, 03:37 PM	#8
Silverhks Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: 07 STi STU #17 Location: SE US Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Surely the car shuts off if the fob gets out of range?

04-10-2012, 03:45 PM	#9
powertrip Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: Mercedes C320, S2000 Location: North Florida Posts: 155 Thanks: 3 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	No, its a safety feature in case for instance the battery in the fob dies you wouldnt want your car to turn itself off in rush hour traffic. Therefore once started fob is irrelevant until attempting to start the car again.

04-10-2012, 04:40 PM	#12
bladesamurai Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 13 BRZ, 04 SV650 Location: USA Posts: 80 Thanks: 25 Thanked 9 Times in 6 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I think the safe way to handle that is to turn the car off when you aren't driving it. I don't understand why people leave their cars running in the parking lot when they go into stores.

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