Whiteline camber bolt cam location??

[suaveflooder]

Just got back from alignment. I installed eibach pro springs and whiteline camber bolts. I was surprised to find i had no camber.

I took the "answer" off the pictures, but i am curious for those who got negative camber with JUST these bolts where was the cam located?

Figure 1


Or figure 2

[suaveflooder]

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[OrbitalEllipses]

Outer washer tab towards the strut for negative camber. The INNER washer tab lines up with the cam on the bolt.

[suaveflooder]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

Outer washer tab towards the strut for negative camber. The INNER washer tab lines up with the cam on the bolt.

So, second picture correct? Maybe my car is just odd. I set it up like the direction said and lined everything up like the second pic....camber is still at zero even with the car lowered an inch

[Calum]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

Outer washer tab towards the strut for negative camber. The INNER washer tab lines up with the cam on the bolt.

That doesn't make any sense.

You want the strut to go one way and the knuckle to go the other. The inner tab should be outward and the cam should be pointing inward.

Before anyone brings up loading and force distribution, the torque on the bolt is what holds the camber set, not the cam and tab. Those are just there to make it easier to set the camber.

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by Calum

That doesn't make any sense.

You want the strut to go one way and the knuckle to go the other. The inner tab should be outward and the cam should be pointing inward.

Before anyone brings up loading and force distribution, the torque on the bolt is what holds the camber set, not the cam and tab. Those are just there to make it easier to set the camber.

Exactly what's in picture two is how my bolts are installed. They were adjusted to -1.2/-1.3 from there.

[suaveflooder]

Originally Posted by Calum

That doesn't make any sense.

You want the strut to go one way and the knuckle to go the other. The inner tab should be outward and the cam should be pointing inward.

Before anyone brings up loading and force distribution, the torque on the bolt is what holds the camber set, not the cam and tab. Those are just there to make it easier to set the camber.

This is exactly what i was thinking. I have it set up to look just like picture two with no change to my camber oddly.

The black mark is where the cam is

[Calum]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

Exactly what's in picture two is how my bolts are installed. They were adjusted to -1.2/-1.3 from there.

I don't understand how, even in those pictures the two holes (knuckle and strut, three I guess really) are lined up. The entire point to these bolts is to misalign the holes.

I'm not trying to be argumentative, I just don't like not understanding something. If I'm wrong, can you please help me learn why?

[suaveflooder]

@OrbitalEllipses, did you have the alignment shop change settings? Just read the instructions online. Looks like @Calum is correct. My first problem is that my tab should be horizontal, and second, from the instructions, it seems as though this is the starting position. "To adjust". Loosen nut and rotate the bolt (step 6 and 7). Am i crazy or am i reading this correct? For full negative camber, that cam should be 180* from the inner washer tab

[FRSFirestorm]

Even with these camber bolts I was only able to get .7 on the drivers side. 1.4 on the other. All cars aren't the same.

The tab has been removed on the drivers side to get from .7 to 1.2 and both sides are now even at that.

[OrbitalEllipses]

You start with the bolts as they are in Figure 2, then keep the tab straight and turn the bolt end for negative camber; hold the bolt as is and tighten nut end.

[suaveflooder]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

You start with the bolts as they are in Figure 2, then keep the tab straight and turn the bolt end for negative camber; hold the bolt as is and tighten nut end.

That's where I missed it!!! I left it just like the picture. Explains why camber is at zero! Well, time to pull the wheels back off. At least it's quick

[johnb831]

That's weird. i was able to get -1.2 on both sides when i had it installed on my car.

[suaveflooder]

Originally Posted by johnb831

That's weird. i was able to get -1.2 on both sides when i had it installed on my car.

They turned the bolts. I need to rotate the cam 180* while leaving the smaller inner tab in the same location. I installed them correctly for the most part, just never adjusted it to have negative camber. Oops