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suaveflooder 06-17-2013 03:50 PM

Whiteline camber bolt cam location??
 
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Just got back from alignment. I installed eibach pro springs and whiteline camber bolts. I was surprised to find i had no camber.

I took the "answer" off the pictures, but i am curious for those who got negative camber with JUST these bolts where was the cam located?

Figure 1
Attachment 41317

Or figure 2
Attachment 41318

suaveflooder 06-17-2013 06:15 PM

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OrbitalEllipses 06-17-2013 06:32 PM

Outer washer tab towards the strut for negative camber. The INNER washer tab lines up with the cam on the bolt.

suaveflooder 06-17-2013 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses (Post 1007780)
Outer washer tab towards the strut for negative camber. The INNER washer tab lines up with the cam on the bolt.

So, second picture correct? Maybe my car is just odd. I set it up like the direction said and lined everything up like the second pic....camber is still at zero even with the car lowered an inch :iono:

Calum 06-17-2013 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses (Post 1007780)
Outer washer tab towards the strut for negative camber. The INNER washer tab lines up with the cam on the bolt.

That doesn't make any sense.

You want the strut to go one way and the knuckle to go the other. The inner tab should be outward and the cam should be pointing inward.

Before anyone brings up loading and force distribution, the torque on the bolt is what holds the camber set, not the cam and tab. Those are just there to make it easier to set the camber.

OrbitalEllipses 06-17-2013 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Calum (Post 1007858)
That doesn't make any sense.

You want the strut to go one way and the knuckle to go the other. The inner tab should be outward and the cam should be pointing inward.

Before anyone brings up loading and force distribution, the torque on the bolt is what holds the camber set, not the cam and tab. Those are just there to make it easier to set the camber.

Exactly what's in picture two is how my bolts are installed. They were adjusted to -1.2/-1.3 from there.

suaveflooder 06-17-2013 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Calum (Post 1007858)
That doesn't make any sense.

You want the strut to go one way and the knuckle to go the other. The inner tab should be outward and the cam should be pointing inward.

Before anyone brings up loading and force distribution, the torque on the bolt is what holds the camber set, not the cam and tab. Those are just there to make it easier to set the camber.

This is exactly what i was thinking. I have it set up to look just like picture two with no change to my camber oddly. Attachment 41338

The black mark is where the cam is

Calum 06-17-2013 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses (Post 1007859)
Exactly what's in picture two is how my bolts are installed. They were adjusted to -1.2/-1.3 from there.

I don't understand how, even in those pictures the two holes (knuckle and strut, three I guess really) are lined up. The entire point to these bolts is to misalign the holes. :iono:

I'm not trying to be argumentative, I just don't like not understanding something. If I'm wrong, can you please help me learn why?

suaveflooder 06-17-2013 09:01 PM

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@OrbitalEllipses, did you have the alignment shop change settings? Just read the instructions online. Looks like @Calum is correct. My first problem is that my tab should be horizontal, and second, from the instructions, it seems as though this is the starting position. "To adjust". Loosen nut and rotate the bolt (step 6 and 7). Am i crazy or am i reading this correct? For full negative camber, that cam should be 180* from the inner washer tab

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FRSFirestorm 06-17-2013 09:04 PM

Even with these camber bolts I was only able to get .7 on the drivers side. 1.4 on the other. All cars aren't the same.

The tab has been removed on the drivers side to get from .7 to 1.2 and both sides are now even at that.

OrbitalEllipses 06-17-2013 09:28 PM

You start with the bolts as they are in Figure 2, then keep the tab straight and turn the bolt end for negative camber; hold the bolt as is and tighten nut end.

suaveflooder 06-17-2013 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses (Post 1008109)
You start with the bolts as they are in Figure 2, then keep the tab straight and turn the bolt end for negative camber; hold the bolt as is and tighten nut end.

That's where I missed it!!! I left it just like the picture. Explains why camber is at zero! Well, time to pull the wheels back off. At least it's quick

johnb831 06-17-2013 09:51 PM

That's weird. i was able to get -1.2 on both sides when i had it installed on my car.

suaveflooder 06-17-2013 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by johnb831 (Post 1008150)
That's weird. i was able to get -1.2 on both sides when i had it installed on my car.

They turned the bolts. I need to rotate the cam 180* while leaving the smaller inner tab in the same location. I installed them correctly for the most part, just never adjusted it to have negative camber. Oops ;)


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