Over Pipe / Header Recommendation - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

spcmafia · 07-06-2020, 01:03 PM

Hello there,
So I'm currently running an Invidia Q300 with the HKS Dual Resonated Front Pipe. I'm looking to keep a mature yet deep, in other words, relatively quiet sound on my exhaust, combined with being emissions compliant. What would be a good Header+Overpipe addition. Currently running a stage 1 tune from OFT. Naturally after deciding on the topic above, will move onto stage 2.

Ernest72 · 07-06-2020, 03:21 PM

Do you want subie rumble then get uel, I have the JDL version. If not get el and people love the ACE350 but it’s not cheap. You don’t need an overpipe, as stock will work, but no harm.

SUSPECT_BRZ · 07-06-2020, 06:22 PM

Pretty new to the platform but only heard good stuff about the expensive ACE and the less expensive JDL. Both can be combined with a tune from Delicious Tuning as well. I would also consider the Tomei UEL headers for the rumble. Hope that helps.

spcmafia · 07-07-2020, 10:20 AM

So I took a look into the Ace.... FCK that...lol. Im already pretty broke from buying a bunch of stuff for the car. I think I'm going JDL, FT86Speed also makes headers but I'm unsure about quality and gains, I know they are hand-made which could mean better quality, but also prone to imperfections, I guess. Thank for the suggestions!

DarkPira7e · 07-07-2020, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by spcmafia

So I took a look into the Ace.... FCK that...lol. Im already pretty broke from buying a bunch of stuff for the car. I think I'm going JDL, FT86Speed also makes headers but I'm unsure about quality and gains, I know they are hand-made which could mean better quality, but also prone to imperfections, I guess. Thank for the suggestions!

For what it's worth, I've seen 2 people install a set of the FT86speedfactory headers. One had the coating and one did not - both sets had no fit or finish issues at all and sound great. No idea about gains, but the UEL rumble is definitely there.

spcmafia · 07-07-2020, 10:32 AM

Interesting.... Hopefully someone with the 86Speed Headers will look at this thread and share some long-term results. They are reasonable priced , I must admit that, I just like to really research any part that I'm about to install first.

alphasaur · 07-07-2020, 10:43 AM

I've had my coated catted ft86 speedfactory header for close to a year, sounds great with a knock off ARK exhaust. Still looks new. Also no check engine light issues if you don't immediately install a tune, though it's highly recommended to get rid of torque dip. No issues and power is there with an OFT tune.

spcmafia · 07-07-2020, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by alphasaur

I've had my coated catted ft86 speedfactory header for close to a year, sounds great with a knock off ARK exhaust. Still looks new. Also no check engine light issues if you don't immediately install a tune, though it's highly recommended to get rid of torque dip. No issues and power is there with an OFT tune.

My man... thank for the input. I'll probably have to research sound clips with that header, Invidia q300 and the HKS DRFP. Might be tough to find someone with that exact setup.

Grady · 07-07-2020, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by spcmafia

So I took a look into the Ace.... FCK that...lol. Im already pretty broke from buying a bunch of stuff for the car. I think I'm going JDL, FT86Speed also makes headers but I'm unsure about quality and gains, I know they are hand-made which could mean better quality, but also prone to imperfections, I guess. Thank for the suggestions!

The factory headers on this car flow well already(especially 17+). If you are looking for sound then any header you feels sounds good is your choice. If you are looking for performance then you are going to have to pay. If you are going to do it cheep then just gut the cat on your factory header. it will perform as good as most cheep cat less headers.

weederr33 · 07-07-2020, 03:15 PM

Personally, I would say just save up for a while and go ACE. I was a nonbeliever for a while till I got my CS400 and the only other headers I felt compare to it were the Cosworth I had.

JonAvalon · 07-07-2020, 04:28 PM

Gruppe-S UEL if you want the UEL sound. It's has a good reputation on the forums for the price (see the vendor thread in the classifieds. Overpipe and thermal coating options available). I'm pretty happy with mine, no install issues and it came with all hardware and gaskets required. I added the thermal coating and oil pan shield to the package as well, great value overall. Of course JDL is also an option, they do great work.

new2subaru · 07-07-2020, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by weederr33

Personally, I would say just save up for a while and go ACE. I was a nonbeliever for a while till I got my CS400 and the only other headers I felt compare to it were the Cosworth I had.

You did just the header?

rice_classic · 07-07-2020, 06:44 PM

Made a surprising amount of power on the oem header with just cat removed and replaced with a straight through collector. The big benefit is you can retain the oem o2 ports and heat shields. Heat shields on this car are pretty awesome to have.

However this doesn’t improve the torque dip while many aftermarket headers really help improve that.

weederr33 · 07-07-2020, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by new2subaru

You did just the header?

Nah. I have an HKS frontpipe and TRD axelback

07-06-2020, 01:03 PM	#1
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07-07-2020, 10:43 AM	#7
alphasaur friendly Join Date: Oct 2018 Drives: 17' 86 Location: Dutchess County, NY Posts: 734 Thanks: 1,483 Thanked 483 Times in 293 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I've had my coated catted ft86 speedfactory header for close to a year, sounds great with a knock off ARK exhaust. Still looks new. Also no check engine light issues if you don't immediately install a tune, though it's highly recommended to get rid of torque dip. No issues and power is there with an OFT tune. __________________ Seek comfort in discomfort.

07-07-2020, 03:15 PM	#10
weederr33 Airborne at your service Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: '17 BRZ Series.Yellow Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 6,420 Thanks: 4,578 Thanked 5,706 Times in 2,992 Posts Mentioned: 33 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Personally, I would say just save up for a while and go ACE. I was a nonbeliever for a while till I got my CS400 and the only other headers I felt compare to it were the Cosworth I had. __________________ Series.Yellowbird - http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122135 MS, CSCS, TSAC-F, CPT

07-07-2020, 04:28 PM	#11
JonAvalon SCBYD0 Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: 18 BRZ (WRB) Location: Dallas,TX Posts: 544 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 240 Times in 167 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Gruppe-S UEL if you want the UEL sound. It's has a good reputation on the forums for the price (see the vendor thread in the classifieds. Overpipe and thermal coating options available). I'm pretty happy with mine, no install issues and it came with all hardware and gaskets required. I added the thermal coating and oil pan shield to the package as well, great value overall. Of course JDL is also an option, they do great work. __________________ 04 Scion xA > 13 FR-S stg 2 UEL E85 > 16 WRX stg 1.5 > 15 Audi S3 > 18 BRZ Limited UEL E85

07-07-2020, 06:44 PM	#13
rice_classic Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Nevermorange FRS Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 4,171 Thanks: 757 Thanked 4,206 Times in 1,807 Posts Mentioned: 78 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Made a surprising amount of power on the oem header with just cat removed and replaced with a straight through collector. The big benefit is you can retain the oem o2 ports and heat shields. Heat shields on this car are pretty awesome to have. However this doesn’t improve the torque dip while many aftermarket headers really help improve that. __________________ SCCA T4 - FRS

07-06-2020, 03:21 PM	#2
Ernest72 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Drives: 16 Silver BRZ, 04 Silver WRX wagon Location: Rockland county, NY Posts: 1,429 Thanks: 186 Thanked 776 Times in 446 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Do you want subie rumble then get uel, I have the JDL version. If not get el and people love the ACE350 but it’s not cheap. You don’t need an overpipe, as stock will work, but no harm.

07-06-2020, 06:22 PM	#3
SUSPECT_BRZ Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Drives: 2020 Subaru BRZ TS Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 219 Thanks: 63 Thanked 142 Times in 70 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Pretty new to the platform but only heard good stuff about the expensive ACE and the less expensive JDL. Both can be combined with a tune from Delicious Tuning as well. I would also consider the Tomei UEL headers for the rumble. Hope that helps.

07-07-2020, 10:20 AM	#4
spcmafia Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Drives: 2018 Subaru BRZ Location: Stonington, Connecticut Posts: 3,396 Thanks: 1,566 Thanked 4,238 Times in 2,049 Posts Mentioned: 26 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So I took a look into the Ace.... FCK that...lol. Im already pretty broke from buying a bunch of stuff for the car. I think I'm going JDL, FT86Speed also makes headers but I'm unsure about quality and gains, I know they are hand-made which could mean better quality, but also prone to imperfections, I guess. Thank for the suggestions!

07-07-2020, 10:32 AM	#6
spcmafia Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Drives: 2018 Subaru BRZ Location: Stonington, Connecticut Posts: 3,396 Thanks: 1,566 Thanked 4,238 Times in 2,049 Posts Mentioned: 26 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Interesting.... Hopefully someone with the 86Speed Headers will look at this thread and share some long-term results. They are reasonable priced , I must admit that, I just like to really research any part that I'm about to install first.

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