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Dipstik-sportech · 07-21-2013, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Gen

Have you considered going to someone closer to you to do your tuning? It's a bit easier than the back and forth stuff. I know I had some issues with the fuel pump myself.

91 base map isn't that great either to be honest. Red line is base. I was thinking I was going to need to upgrade the clutch--not so much. (dyno dynamics)

After a bit of tinkering this is the best that we could get out of 91 octane and a stock exhaust. California gas is crappy. A bit more than what the innovate kit puts out on this dyno. (mustang dyno)

Wasn't he on 10+ psi and E85? I know he has a built engine with 9.5:1 compression, so not exactly a straight comparison...

9.5:1 yes but only on the 7psi base map and 91 Canadian pump gas. The lack of compression actually made is worse on the base tune, too much fuel and no timing.

charged86 · 07-21-2013, 11:41 AM

Well don't you have the stock map??

Gen · 07-21-2013, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dipstik-sportech

9.5:1 yes but only on the 7psi base map and 91 Canadian pump gas. The lack of compression actually made is worse on the base tune, too much fuel and no timing.

Have you dynoed it?

whitefrs · 07-21-2013, 01:21 PM

wow thats bad

i was making 250 whp at 8psi with johns tune and i thought it was not good at all.

talk to LJ @FullBlown he will get you a nice tune

Dipstik-sportech · 07-21-2013, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Gen

Have you dynoed it?

240@6.7 psi. It's since been cranked up though....

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Gen · 07-21-2013, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dipstik-sportech

240@6.7 psi. It's since been cranked up though....

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I assume that's on a dyno jet?

Dipstik-sportech · 07-21-2013, 02:59 PM

I'm gonna say yes. Not 100% sure what brand Lj runs

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FullBlown · 07-21-2013, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by pmccut

The base tune I had from fullblown was for the stock MAP sensor. I emailed LJ on Thursday for a new tune. Ill bug him again on Monday.

I will adjust it and send it over

whitefrs · 07-21-2013, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by FullBlown

I will adjust it and send it over

I know you will get it right

clayrush · 07-21-2013, 06:52 PM

I saw your car last week while your clutch was being installed.

May I ask why you just did not have him do his own custom tune?

Is that a stock VS tuned turbo? or Tuned turbo VS non tuned turbo? Because if that was bone stock vs turbo that TQ is way higher than mine :P

Pete's/Works dyno rates quite a bit lower than most. I think it is like 8-10% compared to my other tuner using a mustang dyno.

But I really think 91 is what's killin us. wen we go FI on my girls FRS we will be going to e-85.

Here is a pic of of the frs dyno with a cat back muffler and intake VS intake, boral headers, up pipe, front pipe, catback with tune.

Here is a pic of the dyno from my other tuner same vs same

Also I noticed you still have stock over pipe and front pipe. Changing them out may help as well.

Dipstik-sportech · 07-21-2013, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by whitefrs

I know you will get it right

He always does

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pmccut · 07-22-2013, 01:58 AM

Update: Got a new map from Visconti early this morning. He wanted a pull on map 1 and 2. I drove around for a bit and got a couple pulls in on map 1, it no longer had hesitation going into boost, but was still much leaner than I'd like. Cold starting was completely resolved as well. On the previous maps the car would stall out unless you gave it constant throttle for 30 seconds.

Now the bad news...switched to map 2. I tried going into boost a couple times and noticed my AEM failsafe didn't show any AF/R readings, as if it was outside of the 10-18 range it can read. Ok..headed home to review logs. Driving on local road, 25ish mph..heard a loud POP sound. Sounded really bad. Car drove the remaining 1/4 mile home and parked the car. Waiting to hear back from John to see if there's anything horrific in the logs.

pmccut · 07-22-2013, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by clayrush

May I ask why you just did not have him do his own custom tune?

I discussed it with Pete and he was certainly open to doing the tune. I completely trust him to do the tune, but I bought the pump+e85 tune from Visconti, and plan to stick to E85 once the 91 tune is finalized. I'll probably end up with the Visconti Flexfuel kit so I think a dyno tune from Pete on 91 might be wasted.

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Originally Posted by clayrush

But I really think 91 is what's killin us. wen we go FI on my girls FRS we will be going to e-85.

Definitely. I'm not looking for high power on this map, just good/safe A/Frs. I don't like seeing my A/F ratio lean out when I hit boost.

clayrush · 07-22-2013, 03:21 AM

Well I hope all goes well for you. Ill try to follow you the best I can. am not sure what fi kit we are going with. But full blown was one we were leaning to. And works is where we are going to have it tuned and likely installed. I kinda like his prototype kit as well. I just wish the flex fuel kit did not cost so much.

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clayrush Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: FRS,09 370z, 00 CelicaGT-S, 85 300Z Location: SF Bay/vallejo Posts: 653 Thanks: 1,258 Thanked 280 Times in 161 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I saw your car last week while your clutch was being installed. May I ask why you just did not have him do his own custom tune? Is that a stock VS tuned turbo? or Tuned turbo VS non tuned turbo? Because if that was bone stock vs turbo that TQ is way higher than mine :P Pete's/Works dyno rates quite a bit lower than most. I think it is like 8-10% compared to my other tuner using a mustang dyno. But I really think 91 is what's killin us. wen we go FI on my girls FRS we will be going to e-85. Here is a pic of of the frs dyno with a cat back muffler and intake VS intake, boral headers, up pipe, front pipe, catback with tune. Here is a pic of the dyno from my other tuner same vs same Also I noticed you still have stock over pipe and front pipe. Changing them out may help as well.

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