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pmccut 07-21-2013 01:35 AM

pmccut's FBM dyno results
 
Just picked my car up from WORKS motorsports in Sonoma, CA after adding some goodies: ClutchMasters FX300, Perrin engine mounts, Perrin rear shifter bushing, and Perrin transmission support mount.

I'm e-tuning with Visconti. This is the fourth map so far. The fuel pump (dw 65c) had 2 o-rings and no white spacer originally, so I added a third myself, and WORKS just added the 4th before this dyno run.

I'm waiting on FullBlown to send over a map for the 3BAR sensor as well, and plan to see if LJ can get the car running OK.

The dyno run is absolutely terrible - 179hp, 180lb/ft
http://emopride.net/squirrels/dyno.jpg

Here's the really worrying plot - boost/afr.
http://emopride.net/squirrels/boost_afr.jpg

Right before the car goes into boost it goes really lean, then super rich.
I have yet to drive this car fast, or even on a fun road. Someone keep my hopes up please

wootwoot 07-21-2013 01:52 AM

Seems like a tune issue. No worries. Talk to John about it. I am sure he will get you running tip top in no time.

sw20kosh 07-21-2013 01:54 AM

Why don't you flash in the base tune that Full Blown supplies with the kit?

How long has the car been in this condition (waiting for a proper tune)?

husker741 07-21-2013 02:05 AM

Considering another Full Blown kit hit 13.7 with stock tires, it has to be the tune.

King Tut 07-21-2013 02:06 AM

The results really are all in the tune. I don't know what to say because my Visconti tune was running nearly twice the boost you are running.

pmccut 07-21-2013 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sw20kosh (Post 1085228)
Why don't you flash in the base tune that Full Blown supplies with the kit?

How long has the car been in this condition (waiting for a proper tune)?

The base tune I had from fullblown was for the stock MAP sensor. I emailed LJ on Thursday for a new tune. Ill bug him again on Monday.

Gen 07-21-2013 02:43 AM

Have you considered going to someone closer to you to do your tuning? It's a bit easier than the back and forth stuff. I know I had some issues with the fuel pump myself.

91 base map isn't that great either to be honest. Red line is base. I was thinking I was going to need to upgrade the clutch--not so much. (dyno dynamics)

http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/t...psea2dcf69.png

After a bit of tinkering this is the best that we could get out of 91 octane and a stock exhaust. California gas is crappy. A bit more than what the innovate kit puts out on this dyno. (mustang dyno)

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c1...pse89738ea.jpg


Quote:

Originally Posted by husker741 (Post 1085243)
Considering another Full Blown kit hit 13.7 with stock tires, it has to be the tune.

Wasn't he on 10+ psi and E85? I know he has a built engine with 9.5:1 compression, so not exactly a straight comparison...

lbroskee 07-21-2013 03:14 AM

listen to King Tut. hes got his FBM kit running great at 320WHP and 260WTQ (give or take)

suaveflooder 07-21-2013 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gen (Post 1085280)
Have you considered going to someone closer to you to do your tuning? It's a bit easier than the back and forth stuff. I know I had some issues with the fuel pump myself.

91 base map isn't that great either to be honest. Red line is base. I was thinking I was going to need to upgrade the clutch--not so much. (dyno dynamics)

http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/t...psea2dcf69.png

After a bit of tinkering this is the best that we could get out of 91 octane and a stock exhaust. California gas is crappy. A bit more than what the innovate kit puts out on this dyno. (mustang dyno)

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c1...pse89738ea.jpg




Wasn't he on 10+ psi and E85? I know he has a built engine with 9.5:1 compression, so not exactly a straight comparison...


Looks like you are local! Where are you located? I have to see your car please!!!

Gen 07-21-2013 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suaveflooder (Post 1085318)
Looks like you are local! Where are you located? I have to see your car please!!!

Dude, you've met me! I'm pretty sure you were at Stone. I'm out in Escondido. You're welcome to swing by any time.

suaveflooder 07-21-2013 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gen (Post 1085321)
Dude, you've met me! I'm pretty sure you were at Stone. I'm out in Escondido. You're welcome to swing by any time.

No, I wanted to go, but couldn't get anyone to work for me :bonk::bonk::bonk: I hate my life

dabocx 07-21-2013 03:35 AM

The back and forth is going to take some time, hopefully it wont be too long and you can get that running smoother.

The pump that comes with the full blown kit also needs the spacers? Where can I pick those up?

pmccut 07-21-2013 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gen (Post 1085280)
Have you considered going to someone closer to you to do your tuning? It's a bit easier than the back and forth stuff. I know I had some issues with the fuel pump myself.

I certainly considered it. The owner of WORKS does ecutek/brz tuning, but he hasn't done a FBM kit yet. I went with Visconti since I plan to switch to E85 as soon as I make sure I have a good 91 map to fall back to. I imagine I'll go the flexfuel kit as well.

I haven't actually seen anyone posting good power levels for these kits on 91. I really just want to see my AFRs around the appropriate area, so it doesn't have knock correction everytime you enter boost - crazy. Can't wait for some corn

pmccut 07-21-2013 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dabocx (Post 1085335)
The back and forth is going to take some time, hopefully it wont be too long and you can get that running smoother.

The pump that comes with the full blown kit also needs the spacers? Where can I pick those up?

I believe you're supposed to use the one from your OEM pump. I just took my FBM pump w/ OEM spacer out of my trunk when I got the car back today. Wish it had fit as well as the DW65c.


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