Auto to manual

[jmaryt]

Originally Posted by jsimon7777

Resale on the manual will be better. You can buy an auto Miata for cheaper than a manual. Same will happen to the 86.

Originally Posted by Gixxersixxerman

I've driven three different manual FRS.. I just don't see the whole, it's a different car aspect.. They might.... Might have accelerated a bit better.. But unless you acting like "that guy" around every street corner.. I don't see the its a whole different car thing.. Maybe driving manuals for so long it's just common practice for me.. I did have a friend drive my car and he thought it was quite weird not to use a clutch.. Hmmm

yes this may have something to do with it!.i have driven nothing but stick for over 40 years,and would never even consider a "slush" box,until i drove this car equipped with one!..just sayin'

[jmaryt]

Originally Posted by shawnperolis

I'm sure the auto in this car is great, the engineers did a hell of a job on everything else... But I didn't really buy the car to be a track monster (I would have bought the Mustang GT or 370z if I wanted to go fast around a track) I bought it for "dat feelz" and as far as I'm concerned you just don't get that in a slushbox.

this is ''dead nuts" accurate,BUT that f**kin' "slush" is still a lot of fun!

[jmaryt]

Originally Posted by shawnperolis

I'm sure the auto in this car is great, the engineers did a hell of a job on everything else... But I didn't really buy the car to be a track monster (I would have bought the Mustang GT or 370z if I wanted to go fast around a track) I bought it for "dat feelz" and as far as I'm concerned you just don't get that in a slushbox.

Originally Posted by SubaruBRZLimited

I'd make a bet that if the driver doesn't try to drift all over the place that the manual will outlast the auto.

put my money on the "stick" every time! if driven "properly" over time,literally nothing to go wrong!
"slush?" maybe!..maybe not!..one thing is clear to a certainty,IF somethin' goes wrong with the slush
after the warranty is over,bring lots of money to the table!..just sayin'

[jmaryt]

Originally Posted by jmaryt

i agree with this,so one really does have to think long and hard if considering the "slush" box! have to admit,the auto in this car makes it a tough decision.

also,as i think about this,i wouldn't be surprised that a "firestorm" frs in 6-speed manual would hold it's resale better than maybe any other frs/brz combo
i realize this is a "reach" however it could happen!.. got a feelin'..just sayin'

[Brzetto]

Originally Posted by jmaryt

put my money on the "stick" every time! if driven "properly" over time,literally nothing to go wrong!
"slush?" maybe!..maybe not!..one thing is clear to a certainty,IF somethin' goes wrong with the slush
after the warranty is over,bring lots of money to the table!..just sayin'

I've heard that autos are insanely expensive to fix and break a lot more often than a manual. Personally I'm not into drifting, it's fun to do in video games but on the road in the real world it's totally impractical unless your Keiichi Tsuchiya or someone else with a lot of money. That's just my opinion though and it's also my opinion that the BRZ is more suited to road racing instead of drifting.

[jmaryt]

yes! i agree with this! it's just another reason why i have shied away from slush boxes over the years,as they ARE inherently MORE complicated by their very design,and when they break,(and at some point they will),could conceivably be cost prohibitive to repair.
on the other hand,a "direct drive" transmission is designed from the beginning for a very long lifespan,because of a much simpler design mechanically,with the most wear prone part being the "throw-out" bearing over time.this part is easily replaced after say,200,000 miles or so,at a reasonable expense...just sayin'

[dem00n]

It depends what auto your talking about, 2-speed Powerglide automatic outlasts any manual on the road. Built tough, slow as fuck but still built tough.

The auto is a different experience, a manual is a manual in any car.

Sure, i can use the excuse that i drive in traffic every day commuting to school and that i take road trips every month (all true) but that's pointless. I bought the auto because its a good fucking transmission, a lot better then the manual in my view point. The manual doesn't suit this car well to my modern viewpoint because of its lack of power. I didn't buy this car for power, i bought it cause it oversteers like a bitch and its the only modern day car under 30K that can kill me more easy then all the others.



Now can we lock this topic?

[Brzetto]

Originally Posted by dem00n

It depends what auto your talking about, 2-speed Powerglide automatic outlasts any manual on the road. Built tough, slow as fuck but still built tough.

The auto is a different experience, a manual is a manual in any car.

Sure, i can use the excuse that i drive in traffic every day commuting to school and that i take road trips every month (all true) but that's pointless. I bought the auto because its a good fucking transmission, a lot better then the manual in my view point. The manual doesn't suit this car well to my modern viewpoint because of its lack of power. I didn't buy this car for power, i bought it cause it oversteers like a bitch and its the only modern day car under 30K that can kill me more easy then all the others.



Now can we lock this topic?

It sounds like you bought the wrong car, try Mustang or Camaro in the future. Be warned the Camaro weighs right at 1000 lbs heavier than the twins. Mustang is only 3400ish. Just a suggestion, not trying to offend.

[switchlanez]

People seem to be arguing about the same points already addressed in the article I posted on the first page. This excerpt perfectly aligns with why I got the BRZ:

"...even though new automatics are faster than even the most skilled driver, there is an old-school, tactile feeling of doing something yourself. There’s a sense of accomplishment with the perfect upshift, a rev-matched downshift or just knowing a skill that others don’t. Many manual drivers find the extra level of engagement, well… engaging!"

[dem00n]

Originally Posted by SubaruBRZLimited

It sounds like you bought the wrong car, try Mustang or Camaro in the future. Be warned the Camaro weighs right at 1000 lbs heavier than the twins. Mustang is only 3400ish. Just a suggestion, not trying to offend.

No no no, you misunderstood me, i'm saying the manual doesn't suit this car for its lack of power. Not that i want power.

[dem00n]

Originally Posted by switchlanez

People seem to be arguing about the same points already addressed in the article I posted on the first page. This excerpt perfectly aligns with why I got the BRZ:

"...even though new automatics are faster than even the most skilled driver, there is an old-school, tactile feeling of doing something yourself. There’s a sense of accomplishment with the perfect upshift, a rev-matched downshift or just knowing a skill that others don’t. Many manual drivers find the extra level of engagement, well… engaging!"

__________________

"This isn’t about specifications or numbers but a cultural phenomenon."
-Moto-P

Why are you driving a car that was already built then? Go build your own, go find your inner hot rod. If you're are going to talk about doing things your self that you can not say that about a brand new spanking car.

If you wanna talk about doing things your self, then do them. Talk the talk then walk the walk.

[Brzetto]

Originally Posted by dem00n

No no no, you misunderstood me, i'm saying the manual doesn't suit this car for its lack of power. Not that i want power.

The original 83-87 Corolla GTS had only 120hp with a manual. The manual makes more usable power.

[dem00n]

Originally Posted by SubaruBRZLimited

The original 83-87 Corolla GTS had only 120hp with a manual. The manual makes more usable power.

Different times.

In 1983 0 to 60 in 6 seconds was dead fast, now its about average.

[Brzetto]

Originally Posted by switchlanez

People seem to be arguing about the same points already addressed in the article I posted on the first page. This excerpt perfectly aligns with why I got the BRZ:

"...even though new automatics are faster than even the most skilled driver, there is an old-school, tactile feeling of doing something yourself. There’s a sense of accomplishment with the perfect upshift, a rev-matched downshift or just knowing a skill that others don’t. Many manual drivers find the extra level of engagement, well… engaging!"

__________________

"This isn’t about specifications or numbers but a cultural phenomenon."
-Moto-P

Accomplishment from a perfect upshift? Come on man that's bs, Just being able to drive manual automatically makes me more skilled than the average driver plus girls like the stick anyway. It's a two door rwd sports car that's fuel efficient what's not to like.