3 things: Even after reading many reviews, I still can't fathom these...

[mrjester]

Originally Posted by reeves

You can lower it 1-1.5" and it'll still be a very useable DD.

Mine is lowered ~1" and I have very little scraping.

[Brzetto]

Wants more power = tiny penis. This

is not this

[boead]

Originally Posted by shawnperolis

If you don't believe that site, here is Car and Driver's and Motor Trend's times:

V6 Camry
Zero to 60 mph: 5.8 sec
1/4 mile: 14.3 sec @ 101 mph
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ad-test-review

Zero to 60 mph: 5.8 sec
1/4 mile: 14.2 sec
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ry_first_test/

FR-S
Zero to 60 mph: 6.0–6.2 sec
1/4 mile: 15.5–15.7 sec
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...t-drive-review

Zero to 60mph: 6.2 sec
1/4 mile: 14.8
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...t/viewall.html

Sorry man, but the Camry is quite a bit faster than our beloved FR-S. I'd much rather have the FR-S, but people don't give the new Camry enough credit... It stupid fast for a family sedan. Probably not as fun as the FR-S though!

Yeah but most of the time its got some fat ass soccer mom and her fat kids in it. That's gotta slow things down a little.

[Brzetto]

Originally Posted by boead

Yeah but most of the time its got some fat ass soccer mom and her fat kids in it. That's gotta slow things down a little.

[MightyMeeple]

Well played....

[kurbkilla]

Originally Posted by mrjester

Mine is lowered ~1" and I have very little scraping.

Is that just springs? and what rims you have?

[mrjester]

Originally Posted by kurbkilla

Is that just springs? and what rims you have?

Yes. Just springs.
Tein High Tech Lowering Springs - F:1.0", R:0.9"
Platinum Widow wheels - 17x7.5, 42mm offset

[Hordur]

Originally Posted by lemonspeakers

1) When people say this car is slow. How slow am I talking? Can you put it into perspective of a 1998 Honda Civic SI or a 1999 Acura Intega GSR?

2) This car raves all about handling and on turns? Can you explain this to me better in your own words to someone who drives a 2001 Acura TL?

3) Low COG like a Porche 911. Will lowering the car with proper Coil overs/ etc alter the COG in any way? Good or bad?

1. If you drive it like you would drive a normal car it is seriously slow. It is just a 2 liter engine and if you do not rev it high it will be just as slow as boring commuter car. If you rev it a bit harder you will get the engine into the zone where it is superior to a normal car, but it is still nowhere near something like a powerful V8. Bottom line: It is fast enough, but it is not a drag racer.

2. A car like a 2001 Acura TL is likely to have under steer, body roll and and anesthetized steering feel. I never drove one, but that is typical. It is safe, predicable and boring. The FR-S on the other hand has a more direct steering feel, minimal body roll and you can slide the rear end.

It is exciting and at the same time reasonably controllable and predictable. It sounds like a contradiction, but the thing is that you can make it slide without scaring yourself to death or risking too much. This is made possible by relatively low performance tyres that are not super sticky. Stickier tyres allow for faster cornering speeds, but when they do lose their grip you will be going faster and the forces acting on the car will be stronger and the potential for trouble higher.

3. Lowering the car will generally make the ride harsher and increase the risk of the car bottoming out. A lower COG will help keep the weight of the tyres evenly distributed during cornering and therefore make the stress on the outside tyres less and increase the good contribution from the inside tyres. A great strategy for a race track, but maybe not os much for the road. The stock COG is quite low enough.

[Dezoris]

Originally Posted by shawnperolis

If you don't believe that site, here is Car and Driver's and Motor Trend's times:

V6 Camry
Zero to 60 mph: 5.8 sec
1/4 mile: 14.3 sec @ 101 mph
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ad-test-review

Zero to 60 mph: 5.8 sec
1/4 mile: 14.2 sec
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ry_first_test/

FR-S
Zero to 60 mph: 6.0–6.2 sec
1/4 mile: 15.5–15.7 sec
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...t-drive-review

Zero to 60mph: 6.2 sec
1/4 mile: 14.8
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...t/viewall.html

Sorry man, but the Camry is quite a bit faster than our beloved FR-S. I'd much rather have the FR-S, but people don't give the new Camry enough credit... It stupid fast for a family sedan. Probably not as fun as the FR-S though!

I know I have said it in this thread but have to re-iterate. The V6 Camry 0-60 is done with a street start as it is an auto gear box.

To get a 6.2 0-60 time in the FR-S you have to launch at 5500RPMS.

If you compare street starts the FR-S is in the 8.2 second range for 0-60. That was the point of my review where it faced the minivan. On a normal launch the car is painfully slow. And that's how most people will launch the car.

So back to the original post its basically going to feel like a RWD Acura GSR in terms of acceleration. (Street start)