3 things: Even after reading many reviews, I still can't fathom these...

[Clipdat]

Yeah, what is it with this? Took the car out to lunch today and some guy in a boring 4 door sedan was tailgating me so close to the point that I couldn't even see his headlights/hood, and I was already going 5 over the speed limit. I don't understand it...

Originally Posted by NOHOME

Problem is compounded by the fact that the car seems to act as a challenge to a certain demographic when they see it.

[reeves]

Originally Posted by bcj

If you lower it a bunch you'll be scraping every speedbump and driveway transitions.
It's low to begin with and has little body sway. Skidpad testing is the way to evaluate cornering traction.

It's not as low as people keep saying.. My gf has a '06 Civic EX.. that car's stock front bumper is even lower than this car.. I've seen some stock VW Golf's that are lower too.

I drive downtown every day through horrible broken pavements & plenty of potholes with no problem/scraping yet.

the COG is very low.. not the actually ground clearance. You can lower it 1-1.5" and it'll still be a very useable DD.

[Mr.Corvus]

Originally Posted by Clipdat

Yeah, what is it with this? Took the car out to lunch today and some guy in a boring 4 door sedan was tailgating me so close to the point that I couldn't even see his headlights/hood, and I was already going 5 over the speed limit. I don't understand it...

Maybe he was checkin' out dat foine ass? I dunno, you'd think living in the LA/LB area I'd be getting challenged every second. Only happened once as far as I can tell and I ended up showing the challenger how poorly their car handled turns.

[shawnperolis]

Originally Posted by reeves

It's not as low as people keep saying.. My gf has a '06 Civic EX.. that car's stock front bumper is even lower than this car.. I've seen some stock VW Golf's that are lower too.

I drive downtown every day through horrible broken pavements & plenty of potholes with no problem/scraping yet.

the COG is very low.. not the actually ground clearance. You can lower it 1-1.5" and it'll still be a very useable DD.

I call BS. My lowered-by-2" 2006 Civic Si was about even with the FRS. When I went and picked it up from the dealer I parked right next to it.

[axelo]

Originally Posted by reeves

It's not as low as people keep saying.. My gf has a '06 Civic EX.. that car's stock front bumper is even lower than this car.. I've seen some stock VW Golf's that are lower too.

I drive downtown every day through horrible broken pavements & plenty of potholes with no problem/scraping yet.

the COG is very low.. not the actually ground clearance. You can lower it 1-1.5" and it'll still be a very useable DD.

its a sports car...want more power? ....you have options already....

nuff said

[reeves]

Originally Posted by shawnperolis

I call BS. My lowered-by-2" 2006 Civic Si was about even with the FRS. When I went and picked it up from the dealer I parked right next to it.

Looks can be decieving then.. All I know is my BRZ front bumper clears her apartment parking lot curb (I CAN park with my bumper OVER the curb). She scrapes the bottom of her bumper if she parks too close to the curb. Yes, she's the original owner too with no mods.

[RIPTRD71]

Originally Posted by zaptorque

1.) Go take a test-drive
2.)Go take a test-drive
3.) Yes; depends on what you're trying to accomplish

What he said.

[aghuman]

Originally Posted by whtchocla7e

The car is a dog. It's mini-van slow. If you are between the ages of 16-22, you will find it uncool.

I'm 22 and I have loved everything about this car since word of it first dropped years ago, moving away from all out power and lap times and back to pure driving is a dream for me. I think it's cool as ever and could care less what others think cause real drivers will know what this car is. I finally ordered mine 2 weeks ago and I'm scheduled to get it mid-April and each waiting day seems like a marathon.

[Turbowned]

If it's so slow, how come you guys keep getting speeding tickets?

[suaveflooder]

Originally Posted by ExWhyZer0

This car sucks bro don't buy it. Get that stang bro. Mad props. You lift? :P

Dude, as a former mustang owner this had me rolling!!!!!

[suaveflooder]

Originally Posted by Turbowned

If it's so slow, how come you guys keep getting speeding tickets?

because race car?????

[GT 86 Brah]

i always laugh at people calling the car slow especially GC owners with 2.0T. the fr-s is actually faster than the GC 2.0T non R spec LMAO... atleast non '13 versions

[Bonburner]

I'm 22 and loving it; needs more kick of course but its also fun reving to that red!

[wu_dot_com]

Originally Posted by lemonspeakers

3) Low COG like a Porche 911. Will lowering the car with proper Coil overs/ etc alter the COG in any way? Good or bad?

Originally Posted by zaptorque

3.) Yes; depends on what you're trying to accomplish

actually no, lowering a car with correct shock does not alter COG.

i will get technical for a bit here so please bear with me.

a vehicle’s dynamic characteristic is a product of both center of mass and center of gravity.

referencing from wikipedia,

Center of gravity is the point in a body around which the resultant torque due to gravity forces vanish. Near the surface of the earth, where the gravity acts downward as a parallel force field, the center of gravity and the center of mass are the same.
The study of the dynamics of aircraft, vehicles and vessels assumes that the system moves in near-earth gravity, and therefore the terms center of gravity and center of mass are used interchangeably.

in English. When you look at a car as a whole while evaluating the effect of external forces, the reaction from COM and COG would be the same; thus COM and COG is interchangeable.

However, the difference between COM and COG is that COM describes mass distribution of an object, while COG describe the gravities effects on that object.

with basic newton's law F=MA, where COM is the only the mass part of that equation, while COG is a force(COG=COM(M)x Gravity(A)).

Since COG is force acting on the car in the vertical plane, making the car higher or lower does not affect either the Mass or the Gravity on cars.