How much camber wear from Eibach Pro Kit - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

slowbrz · 03-19-2013, 06:22 PM

I am getting pro kits and using camber bolts for the front. If I dont use control arms for the rear, how much camber will I have?

getbent · 03-19-2013, 11:20 PM

At full negative camber in the front it will probably be around -1 degree.
The rear with lowering springs will be around -2 degrees.

Slick · 03-20-2013, 09:44 AM

You sure?
Won't the crash bolt give you at least half a degree?
With the bolt and springs I would think we could get up to -1.5 or more.

Getbent, is this from experience or research?

I'm interested as well since I have the ProKit on the way and will be using the crash bolts also.

kask2_6.0 · 03-20-2013, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slick

You sure?
Won't the crash bolt give you at least half a degree?
With the bolt and springs I would think we could get up to -1.5 or more.

Getbent, is this from experience or research?

I'm interested as well since I have the ProKit on the way and will be using the crash bolts also.

You will get -1.5 tops with the crash bolts. I was only able to get -1.3.

yohan04 · 03-20-2013, 12:02 PM

With that modest drop, you'll probably get -1.5 - 2.5 range in the rear without any LCA...but it differs from car to car. My alignment came to be -1.7 on driver side, and -2 on passenger side -- all still within acceptable factory camber range.

Toe is what gives you tire wear; there's little toe-in from the factory to help rear stability.

Hope this helped

getbent · 03-20-2013, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slick

You sure?
Won't the crash bolt give you at least half a degree?
With the bolt and springs I would think we could get up to -1.5 or more.

Getbent, is this from experience or research?

I'm interested as well since I have the ProKit on the way and will be using the crash bolts also.

I have Swift springs and the factory crash bolts. Front ended up at -1.2. If you want more you are going to need to do Com-C or some other camber plates.

zooki · 03-21-2013, 04:21 AM

I have the Pro-Kit on mine, and my rear alignment specs are the same as Yohan04. I have had them installed for about 10,000 miles now with no kind of abnormal wear visible. I'm running the same size rims and tires all around, so I'm going rotate them every oil change.

slowbrz · 03-21-2013, 11:27 PM

May somebody recommend me a good set of camber bolts?

Quote:

Originally Posted by zooki

I have the Pro-Kit on mine, and my rear alignment specs are the same as Yohan04. I have had them installed for about 10,000 miles now with no kind of abnormal wear visible. I'm running the same size rims and tires all around, so I'm going rotate them every oil change.

So Im assuming the only thing youre using are camber bolts for the front?

chadstyle · 03-21-2013, 11:36 PM

I've got the Sportline springs and my front camber is close to -.7 and rear is -2.0... Nothing to be concerned about. It'll be even less with the Pro kit. I don't think the pro kit is a big enough drop on this car.

zooki · 03-21-2013, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slowbrz

May somebody recommend me a good set of camber bolts?

So Im assuming the only thing youre using are camber bolts for the front?

Yes, just adjustable bolts up front. I thought about buying the Whiteline adjustable bushings for the rear, but haven't seen a need for them.

Slick · 03-22-2013, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slowbrz

May somebody recommend me a good set of camber bolts?

So Im assuming the only thing youre using are camber bolts for the front?

I would just go with the Subaru crash bolts (part# 901000394).

It should be enough to give you -.5 extra upfront.
Cheap (was $5each at my dealer) and pretty easy to get.
There is an equivalent Scion part # but I gather it would be more expensive there and it is the same bolt.

slowbrz · 03-22-2013, 11:44 AM

Are Whiteline bolts any better? They cost a little more

Xdragonxb0i · 03-22-2013, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slick

I would just go with the Subaru crash bolts (part# 901000394).

It should be enough to give you -.5 extra upfront.
Cheap (was $5each at my dealer) and pretty easy to get.
There is an equivalent Scion part # but I gather it would be more expensive there and it is the same bolt.

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Dont we already have these crash bolts stock? so how would they improve stock ride?

slowbrz · 03-23-2013, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Xdragonxb0i

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Dont we already have these crash bolts stock? so how would they improve stock ride?

Someone please answer this. I want to buy my camber bolts asap.

03-19-2013, 06:22 PM	#1
slowbrz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: '13 black BRZ MT Location: Cali Posts: 153 Thanks: 60 Thanked 17 Times in 12 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	How much camber wear from Eibach Pro Kit I am getting pro kits and using camber bolts for the front. If I dont use control arms for the rear, how much camber will I have?

03-19-2013, 11:20 PM	#2
getbent Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2013 FR-S Blue MT Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 162 Thanks: 4 Thanked 37 Times in 26 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	At full negative camber in the front it will probably be around -1 degree. The rear with lowering springs will be around -2 degrees. __________________ 2013 Scion FR-S \| 6MT \| UltraMarine

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zooki Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: waiting on a 2021... Location: Texas Posts: 770 Thanks: 190 Thanked 410 Times in 233 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I have the Pro-Kit on mine, and my rear alignment specs are the same as Yohan04. I have had them installed for about 10,000 miles now with no kind of abnormal wear visible. I'm running the same size rims and tires all around, so I'm going rotate them every oil change. __________________ 2016 4Runner Tail edition 2020 Camry 2020 RAV4 2013 Chevy 3500 4x4 Duramax 1999 Ford F250 Powerstroke, the tow rig 1969 Mustang, the fast car....(:

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yohan04 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: Your sister Location: Maryland Posts: 160 Thanks: 49 Thanked 116 Times in 57 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	With that modest drop, you'll probably get -1.5 - 2.5 range in the rear without any LCA...but it differs from car to car. My alignment came to be -1.7 on driver side, and -2 on passenger side -- all still within acceptable factory camber range. Toe is what gives you tire wear; there's little toe-in from the factory to help rear stability. Hope this helped

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