New Products: Front/Rear AP Racing Formula Brake Systems- fit stock wheels!

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ

Good point, it is cheaper..... I just don't want to bother with extended studs and spacers, kind of a pain.

Still can't beat the Essex Comp kits IMO.

Studs are super easy to install. Spacers, depends on your wheels

[ATL BRZ]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Essex builds components of the Sprint/Endurance kits. The AP Formula kits are completely designed and built by AP Racing. AP Racing therefore sets the pricing for their kits, at least at a MAP/SRP level I'd assume.

Still can't beat the Essex Comp kits IMO.

Gotcha, all makes sense now!

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ

Gotcha, all makes sense now!

LOL we need to stop replying while the other is editing

[Tansey86]

Any update on weight savings with this kit?

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by Tansey86

Any update on this kit?

Fixt. Give us more Jeff, give us more!

Anyone print the template out, affix it to cardstock, and check spare tire clearance? I've got it printed out and such, but it's less than 20 degrees outside.

[stockysnail]

Based on what I'm reading, since I live in Portland with it's rain and occasional snow (less than Seattle by the way!) and only track my car a few times a year, I should get this kit instead of the Sprint kit? If yes are the rear brakes even needed or are they more so people can have a matching set?

[ichitaka05]

Hell yeah! I'm totally getting this!

[JRitt]

Hi Guys,
I reworked our website to explain the differences between this kit and our Competition Systems. Check out our new main big brake kit page. It has a comparison grid that shows the differences between product lines. Hopefully this answers a lot of general questions. Also, I created sub-pages for the Formula Kits and the Competition Systems.

I'll also be doing a separate page for this Formula kit, the rear kit, and the big six piston formula kit...that's going to take some time though.

I'm still awaiting more details on the specifics of this system...weights, pics, etc. I will pass them along as soon as I have them. They are coming, and they will fit stock wheels.

Also, word is that we may have the rear kits next week. They are designed to mate up with this system and the big six piston setup (which is here on the shelf and ready to ship in both red and black). I will of course have all the details on display here as soon as they arrive. Thanks for your patience.

[JRitt]

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ

EDIT:Good point, it is cheaper..... I just don't want to bother with extended studs and spacers, kind of a pain.

Just to clarify this further...studs and spacers are NOT a requirement of the Comp kits. Most of our customers are running stock studs and no spacers. That just depends on the wheel fitment.

Based on what I'm reading, since I live in Portland with it's rain and occasional snow (less than Seattle by the way!) and only track my car a few times a year, I should get this kit instead of the Sprint kit? If yes are the rear brakes even needed or are they more so people can have a matching set?

Your final choice is up to you, but yes the Formula Kit is the more street-focused of our two brake kit product lines.

Ugh. I feared that was the case, but I didn't want to think about it so I threw out overly optimistic time frames. LOL

Bummer...I suppose when the black fades into a drab gray, it will be somewhat less ugly than drab maroon, haha.

I know you're already taking pre-orders, but do you have an estimate when they will start shipping?

This is a new product for AP, and they need time to manufacture and build it. We have weekly shipments from England, so as soon as they're ready they will be on a plane. We don't intend to stock silver caliper kits though (silver just isn't as popular), so if you want that color plan ahead. Silver will take 8 weeks regardless of when you order it. To start we will have red and black on the shelf in limited numbers. It will be first come, first served. So if anyone wants one of the first batch for the Spring thaw, I'd suggest placing an order sooner rather than later. When they're gone, we'll have to wait for another batch to be manufactured. The more people who preorder, the better we'll be able to adjust our inventory and make sure there are more kits in the pipeline, and the better chance people will have of getting one in a timely manner.

We're going to do our best to hold adequate inventory and provide the best service possible. I believe we've done that so far, and since initial release of our various products...lines, pads, brake kits, etc...nobody has had to wait for anything. It's just tough to gauge demand for these cars right now. The market is still developing...more cars arriving in customer hands...more people realizing the brakes on these cars aren't quite as good as people initially thought they were, etc. Hopefully that makes sense.

Again though, if you know you want a kit, I'd suggest ordering one. Until everything smooth outs, it's going to be a classic Econ 101 supply and demand problem. AP Racing is currently super busy building F1 parts, NASCAR Sprint Cup parts, ALMS parts, WRC, DTM, Aussie V8 parts, etc....don't forget they're also making brakes for some of the top Supercars, like the McClaren Mp4-12C (see below for some gratuitous carbon brake pron). These FT86 brake kits are designed and built right alongside all of those components, by the same people. When you buy an AP Racing system, you are in select company. The top race teams without any budget limitations choose AP Racing, and sometimes even they have to wait...but sometimes having the best is worth the wait. :happy0180:

[circuithero]

Could someone please point out what issues people were having with the sprint kit in "specific climates"? I can't find this thread, and I specifically was planning on using the sprint kit for DD and 5-10 trackdays a year. Ambient climate temperature range of -5 to 35 Celsius. I had crumbs for dust boot left after my first trackday with the last car (not to mention wheel weights melting off...etc). I need serious brakes, local track is hard on em.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by circuithero

Could someone please point out what issues people were having with the sprint kit in "specific climates"? I can't find this thread, and I specifically was planning on using the sprint kit for DD and 5-10 trackdays a year. Ambient climate temperature range of -5 to 35 Celsius. I had crumbs for dust boot left after my first trackday with the last car (not to mention wheel weights melting off...etc). I need serious brakes, local track is hard on em.

As Jeff has pointed out, the "issues" really affect any BBK as aluminum (in the hats and caliper brackets for example) doesn't do well with corrosive road salt over time, etc. Either wash them regularly or swap back to OEM and be Team Lazy for the winter and you'll be fine IMO

[JRitt]

Originally Posted by circuithero

Could someone please point out what issues people were having with the sprint kit in "specific climates"? I can't find this thread, and I specifically was planning on using the sprint kit for DD and 5-10 trackdays a year. Ambient climate temperature range of -5 to 35 Celsius. I had crumbs for dust boot left after my first trackday with the last car (not to mention wheel weights melting off...etc). I need serious brakes, local track is hard on em.

There was extensive discussion of any potential issues with various types of systems in this thread.

[OrbitalEllipses]

So if I threw down today, approximately when are we looking at initial delivery of red/black kits? Just because I like you so much I can do it now instead of waiting to e-file my taxes. I mean, I want to guarantee having one of the first kits, but if we're looking at a few months down the line...

[jacjac3]

I'm getting my hands on these as soon as I can! I wanted to use my stockers for track days!