Nob/Orido's D1 machine profiled with specs (video)

[dori.]

Originally Posted by ST185RC

Why they didn't use the 1LR-GUE I'll never know. If this was all for just shits and giggles anyways and the rest of us have a snow ball's chance in hell to come across a 1LR, why not go all-out exclusive? Beg toyota if they must, sell their first borns if it helps, I want this mini-LFA to happen like the mini GT-R did in the form of a Juke.

Throw all caution to the wind I say.

ask yourself: how many LFA's were made?

And that should answer your question as to why they didn't use that engine.

[TAP Auto Parts]

Originally Posted by Supermassive

Drive by wire "lag" as you put it, is programmed into the ECU, it's one more way to make a car behave more smoothly. The computer averages the inputs it receives as far as throttle position and then reacts accordingly as smooth as possible. It's 100% possible to make a drive by wire system that's just as good as the cable setups, it's just that so many people coming from older cars have this misplaced nostalgia.

Most race cars now a days utilize drive by wire due to it being another thing that can be tuned to maximize a cars overall performance. Also the lag you really feel from your car when you press on the pedal isn't entirely DBW's fault the stock flywheel and crank pulley account for most of that lag. It takes longer to spin that heavy ass flywheel which feels like lag. Ever since I replaced my clutch and flywheel with a lighter clutch/flywheel combo the car is night and day more responsive to throttle inputs.

To be honest I feel like the cable throttle provides a placebo effect for most people. It's really kind of interesting to me that with the amount of money thrown at these drift cars that a cable throttle would even be considered, I'm guessing it was driver decision more than race engineer decision in regards to that.

You will find the majority of drift cars are controlled by a cable. On a stock car I can pump the gas pedal 3 times 0-100-0-100-0-100 before there was any effect on the engine, no bueno when drifting relies heavily on throttle control.

Depending on the level of race car, yes you will see DBW. F1 cars utilize a throttle map which allows for the engineers to design outputs so the car responds the same way at one track as it does another. They want to make it easy on the driver, so they adjust the throttle map depending on track and engine package.

You probably will not see this on any pro drift car, the throttle map is your foot. I've worked on drift cars from all over the world. I can think of one or two that had DBW, and they were not top level cars and were using the stock DBW system / ECU with a modulator. Maybe its cost of the system?

Here is a good read on F1 throttle maps - http://www.f1technical.net/features/17899

[xbladex0]

I agree with u on the LF-A engine into the Gt-86, but then again think about it it was a V6 twin turbo into a regularly juke 1.6liter turbo engine bay. Now the LF-A has a V10 engine and i have no idea how that would even fit into a 86, not to mention Lexus classifies LF-A as a front mid engine car haha.

[#87]

My favorite part is that they are serious drift machines and look they don't have hella flush stretched 0.5" ground clearance.

Sick cars

[vang]

Originally Posted by xbladex0

I agree with u on the LF-A engine into the Gt-86, but then again think about it it was a V6 twin turbo into a regularly juke 1.6liter turbo engine bay. Now the LF-A has a V10 engine and i have no idea how that would even fit into a 86, not to mention Lexus classifies LF-A as a front mid engine car haha.

You high on something, dawg? The LFA engine is more compact than a Lexus V8 and lighter than a V6. Also, the LFA being classified as front midship has nothing to do with the ability to use the engine in the 86.

The 1LR wasn't used likely due to cost and engine characteristics, i.e. low on torque especially in the low rpm range.

[xbladex0]

Originally Posted by vang

You high on something, dawg? The LFA engine is more compact than a Lexus V8 and lighter than a V6. Also, the LFA being classified as front midship has nothing to do with the ability to use the engine in the 86.

The 1LR wasn't used likely due to cost and engine characteristics, i.e. low on torque especially in the low rpm range.

Ahh i had forgotten it more compact then a V8, but i remember that it was lighter than a V6 engine, but wasn't too sure on the size.

[aehachiroku]

V8s in these with a rocket bunny widebody... drool.

Orido's car looks great too
I've always been a fan of his style. The Supra, the Aristo, and now the 86