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tonystewart · 01-04-2013, 10:00 PM

http://97.74.32.155/files/cool$.pdf
Mocal 13 Row AN-10 A13A10 $146.50

tonystewart · 01-04-2013, 10:02 PM

http://97.74.32.155/files/ahosend.pdf
Hoses, fittings, adapters, etc $ 100

tonystewart · 01-04-2013, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScionRacer

If they will sell just the adapter,you could probably piece it together for less.The cooler might not look as nice as Perrins but the functionality will be there.Im sure they will sell components,but if Perrin is smart,they will charge a lot for the adapter.

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Dezoris · 01-04-2013, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonystewart

http://97.74.32.155/files/cool$.pdf
Mocal 13 Row AN-10 A13A10 $146.50

So another words its a rebadged $450 kit sold for $700?
Am I missing something?

tonystewart · 01-04-2013, 10:13 PM

Yes, you are $50 high. All of this is available for under $399, except for the mounting brackets for the Mocal oil cooler, you'll have to fabricate your own.

I am not bashing Chris and Jeff Perrin, my entire exhaust system is Perrin, I'm merely pointing out the obvious availability of equal quality components for those who have choices and DIY skills.

gmookher · 01-04-2013, 10:39 PM

obviously they need to make a profit and the kit is for the guy who doesnt want to order all parts separate...

there is a custom adapter they machined that you would need to fab up too, plus the feet Perrin has machined(cnc) makes mounting a breeze, its a tested solution, by the time you are done DIY its still $500+ by my math, costs..

something goes to perrin for putting it together testing it and thats only if you buy it from them.

JoeBoxer · 01-04-2013, 10:43 PM

Retail pricing is just that as well, Perrin has lots of holiday sales and great service to back it up. Sure you can piece a kit together but who do you call if there's a problem?

OrbitalEllipses · 01-04-2013, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeBoxer

Retail pricing is just that as well, Perrin has lots of holiday sales and great service to back it up. Sure you can piece a kit together but who do you call if there's a problem?

Oh please. I'm not saying Perrin has done this, but there's always that "installed by a professional" disclaimer with all these products AND the "off-road use only" clause; not to mention the warranty is against manufacturer DEFECT, not installation error. Installation error is where most problems will occur. Defective parts you buy yourself have their own warranties through respective manufacturers. Is it nice to go to Perrin when you have a problem? Yes. Would I pay for fancy brackets that make my life easier because I don't know any fabricators? Probably.

Just giving more perspective on this...

gmookher · 01-04-2013, 11:00 PM

okay, so for the price of one, perrin has sent me basically two kits, minus the core, after I had an issue as a tester with not using hose clamps,

at no charge, shipped free, sent me twice the hose so I do 'do over' twice the clamps, all new fittings etc, I for one got my money's worth, and keep going back to Jeff Perrin's shop for more of that stellar service.

granted I do testing for them, but it appears they treat everyone pretty special if you call them with an issue.
thats another perspective

JoeBoxer · 01-04-2013, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

Oh please. I'm not saying Perrin has done this, but there's always that "installed by a professional" disclaimer with all these products AND the "off-road use only" clause; not to mention the warranty is against manufacturer DEFECT, not installation error. Installation error is where most problems will occur. Defective parts you buy yourself have their own warranties through respective manufacturers. Is it nice to go to Perrin when you have a problem? Yes. Would I pay for fancy brackets that make my life easier because I don't know any fabricators? Probably.

Just giving more perspective on this...

You made my point exactly, if you have trouble installing your pieced together kit there is nobody to call. I can call Perrin or use their online help and get results immediately. I'm just tired of people complaining about Perrin pricing in their threads, i have a few vendors that have my complete confidence and they are Perrin, FA20Club, and Motiv Concepts. They are all in business to make a profit and you get what you pay for, awesome service and great quality parts.

soros151 · 01-05-2013, 06:06 PM

Loving this cooler! Now waiting for a AT fluid cooler! YAYYY YAAAAA!!!

ATL BRZ · 01-06-2013, 11:39 PM

I was hoping for this kit to be around $500 retail.

white devil · 01-07-2013, 06:07 AM

+1 ^

gmookher · 01-07-2013, 09:55 AM

Wouldnt be tracking mine in the desert heat without a oil cooler..

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tonystewart Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Raven Location: Lake Worth Florida Posts: 1,182 Thanks: 76 Thanked 373 Times in 253 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	http://97.74.32.155/files/ahosend.pdf Hoses, fittings, adapters, etc $ 100 __________________ May'12 AT Raven, OFT V2, Perrin IntakeTube, Pulley & Overpipe,HKS Snorkel,FA20 EL Header,Nameless Frontpipe w/ Helmholtz, Crawford AOS, Cusco O2W Cooler, Grimmspeed Strut/MC Brace, Winjets w/D2S 3.0 HID by Illuminating Lighworkx, Fogs w/EU Stalk, LED's, JDM UnderPanels, Diffuser, Rigid Collars, Whiteline, HVT Camber Plates, Koni's, Swift Springs, GTSpec LCA, SPC Toearms, DBA 4K T-Slot Rotors, Ferodo DS2500, Vorshlag BrakeLines, MichelinPSS, 5Axis Wing, Raammat, Ensolite, JPM Coachworks, OEM+Ref400, 20mmspacers, TOMS

01-04-2013, 10:13 PM	#89
tonystewart Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Raven Location: Lake Worth Florida Posts: 1,182 Thanks: 76 Thanked 373 Times in 253 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Yes, you are $50 high. All of this is available for under $399, except for the mounting brackets for the Mocal oil cooler, you'll have to fabricate your own. I am not bashing Chris and Jeff Perrin, my entire exhaust system is Perrin, I'm merely pointing out the obvious availability of equal quality components for those who have choices and DIY skills. __________________ May'12 AT Raven, OFT V2, Perrin IntakeTube, Pulley & Overpipe,HKS Snorkel,FA20 EL Header,Nameless Frontpipe w/ Helmholtz, Crawford AOS, Cusco O2W Cooler, Grimmspeed Strut/MC Brace, Winjets w/D2S 3.0 HID by Illuminating Lighworkx, Fogs w/EU Stalk, LED's, JDM UnderPanels, Diffuser, Rigid Collars, Whiteline, HVT Camber Plates, Koni's, Swift Springs, GTSpec LCA, SPC Toearms, DBA 4K T-Slot Rotors, Ferodo DS2500, Vorshlag BrakeLines, MichelinPSS, 5Axis Wing, Raammat, Ensolite, JPM Coachworks, OEM+Ref400, 20mmspacers, TOMS Last edited by tonystewart; 01-05-2013 at 06:12 PM.

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gmookher Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: VortechSC,BorlaEL,Perrin,GCRace Location: HighHeatHighAltitudeAZ,USA Posts: 2,254 Thanks: 458 Thanked 669 Times in 394 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	obviously they need to make a profit and the kit is for the guy who doesnt want to order all parts separate... there is a custom adapter they machined that you would need to fab up too, plus the feet Perrin has machined(cnc) makes mounting a breeze, its a tested solution, by the time you are done DIY its still $500+ by my math, costs.. something goes to perrin for putting it together testing it and thats only if you buy it from them.

01-04-2013, 10:43 PM	#91
JoeBoxer Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Whiteout FR-S Location: Arkansas Posts: 4,154 Thanks: 1,666 Thanked 1,627 Times in 997 Posts Mentioned: 72 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Retail pricing is just that as well, Perrin has lots of holiday sales and great service to back it up. Sure you can piece a kit together but who do you call if there's a problem?

01-04-2013, 11:00 PM	#93
gmookher Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: VortechSC,BorlaEL,Perrin,GCRace Location: HighHeatHighAltitudeAZ,USA Posts: 2,254 Thanks: 458 Thanked 669 Times in 394 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	okay, so for the price of one, perrin has sent me basically two kits, minus the core, after I had an issue as a tester with not using hose clamps, at no charge, shipped free, sent me twice the hose so I do 'do over' twice the clamps, all new fittings etc, I for one got my money's worth, and keep going back to Jeff Perrin's shop for more of that stellar service. granted I do testing for them, but it appears they treat everyone pretty special if you call them with an issue. thats another perspective

01-07-2013, 09:55 AM	#98
gmookher Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: VortechSC,BorlaEL,Perrin,GCRace Location: HighHeatHighAltitudeAZ,USA Posts: 2,254 Thanks: 458 Thanked 669 Times in 394 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Wouldnt be tracking mine in the desert heat without a oil cooler..

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