NA engine mods for turbo money?

[soros151]

Originally Posted by Dipstik-sportech

1992 Honda civic b18ls/vtec: custom built 2.09L stroker built by King Motorsports, 14:1 comp, custom side swept stainless 2-1/8" header, custom intake manifold, custom pistons by wiesco, benson sleeves, skunk 2 cams, fully ported and polished head(flow bench tested), 110 vp race gas etc... 274whp 180ft/lbs = $10,280 plus tuning

1993 civic delsol b18ls/vtec: 100,000mile stock short block, stock gsr cams, used Jackson racing m62 supercharger, aem water meth kit, kamikaze header, rc 440 injectors, etc...276whp 186ft/lbs = $5,892 with tune

Even with a brand new kit from Jackson racing it wouldn't even be close to the price of the king engine. Don't forget when swapping pistons most people will have to pay a shop to do it for them which will be considerably more than bolting on a turbo. This is only one example and I'm not saying its going to hold true for others but its my experience.

K series engines tend to give more power with less amount of money. At least I have seen good results from them.

[Dipstik-sportech]

But is an fa20 as efficient as a k or even a b series?

[soros151]

Originally Posted by Dipstik-sportech

But is an fa20 as efficient as a k or even a b series?

Totally different engines. I went off-topic for a second. Has anyone seen any CFM measurements done to our Intake Manifold and/or heads?

[wlfpck]

Originally Posted by xjohnx

Weapon-R makes them? I'm sold! Next up, APC.

Continue to ignore the underlying issue that you have no substantial evidence to discredit the sources that I have used.


Greddy and Blitz makes them too. Oh no. Again... you can go to radioshack, get a breadbox and make your own. Not really mind blowing technology.

But hey. When you can't discredit the sources, attack the poster for irrelevant things.

Here.... go attack Steve Dinan of Dinan BMW. http://www.atiracing.com/products/da...mper_dinan.htm


Not even sure what you're attacking as I clearly took a neutral ground standpoint in the fact that there is evidence from various automanufacturers and performance companies. I have clearly stated and restated that there is NO (I'll make this large for you since either you chose to ignore it or just keep overlooking it) evidence that I found that says the information can or can not be linked to boxer engines.

Hell, I've even stated that this is just good reading for people before they just jump in and buy one.


I'll ignore you now until you can actually come back with a some sort of source whether anecdotal or not that actually pertains to the thread topic.


Until then, have fun.

[soros151]

Originally Posted by wlfpck

Continue to ignore the underlying issue that you have no substantial evidence to discredit the sources that I have used.


Greddy and Blitz makes them too. Oh no. Again... you can go to radioshack, get a breadbox and make your own. Not really mind blowing technology.

But hey. When you can't discredit the sources, attack the poster for irrelevant things.

Here.... go attack Steve Dinan of Dinan BMW. http://www.atiracing.com/products/da...mper_dinan.htm


Not even sure what you're attacking as I clearly took a neutral ground standpoint in the fact that there is evidence from various automanufacturers and performance companies. I have clearly stated and restated that there is NO (I'll make this large for you since either you chose to ignore it or just keep overlooking it) evidence that I found that says the information can or can not be linked to boxer engines.

Hell, I've even stated that this is just good reading for people before they just jump in and buy one.


I'll ignore you now until you can actually come back with a some sort of source whether anecdotal or not that actually pertains to the thread topic.


Until then, have fun.

Dude. Don't worry. Just post what you think is relevant and enjoy whatever comes. Relax. Don't pay attention to unbiased comments. Again, so far I have yet to find any correlation to this engine and problems. Our engine is too new and only the engineers know the frequency needed. Remember, our engines won't be on the same frequency too often either.

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[DanoFA20]

Originally Posted by jkonquer

There are so much you can do in NA, however going forced induction is THE cheapest way to gain power.
For NA you can look into cams, port and polished heads, forged pistons and rods, valves. Intake manifolds. These should give you at least 50 more hp, but it will cost over 10k.

the rods are forged already so is the crank and the valves are sodium filled why upgrade something that already bonkers good?

plus forged materials dont add power they just allow for more resilience, stress.

[PLZdontscream]

Originally Posted by wlfpck

Continue to ignore the underlying issue that you have no substantial evidence to discredit the sources that I have used.


Greddy and Blitz makes them too. Oh no. Again... you can go to radioshack, get a breadbox and make your own. Not really mind blowing technology.

But hey. When you can't discredit the sources, attack the poster for irrelevant things.

Here.... go attack Steve Dinan of Dinan BMW. http://www.atiracing.com/products/da...mper_dinan.htm


Not even sure what you're attacking as I clearly took a neutral ground standpoint in the fact that there is evidence from various automanufacturers and performance companies. I have clearly stated and restated that there is NO (I'll make this large for you since either you chose to ignore it or just keep overlooking it) evidence that I found that says the information can or can not be linked to boxer engines.

Hell, I've even stated that this is just good reading for people before they just jump in and buy one.


I'll ignore you now until you can actually come back with a some sort of source whether anecdotal or not that actually pertains to the thread topic.


Until then, have fun.

holy crap.....shut up.