SOA CEO Takeshi Tachimori gives pricing hint for BRZ coupe

[VenomRush]

how come hachi hasn't put this on the home page yet?

[Sabastian]

Originally Posted by dimension6

I'm not so sure the price will be $19K. If he was talking about "positioning" it between the Impreza and the Legacy, I assume he was talking about the price range and not the base price.

That being the case, in the US, the (new 2012) Impreza ranges from $17995-$22,095, and the (2011) Legacy from $19,995-$31,395. Putting the coupe between these ranges could very well mean a price of $25K.

This. The base Impreza and Legacy both come with steelies, but you can bet that the base Subie 0216a will come alloys and other niceties that require a step up to a premium Impreza/Legacy. Therefore, I wouldn't necessarily go comparing base prices as the price for the 0216a will likely fall between the Impreza and Legacy for comparably equipped models. I wouldn't count on that $19k number when the car actually comes to market.

[Allch Chcar]

Originally Posted by dimension6

I'm not so sure the price will be $19K. If he was talking about "positioning" it between the Impreza and the Legacy, I assume he was talking about the price range and not the base price.

That being the case, in the US, the (new 2012) Impreza ranges from $17995-$22,095, and the (2011) Legacy from $19,995-$31,395. Putting the coupe between these ranges could very well mean a price of $25K.

If the Subaru coupe has any mid range trim than it might still fall inline between the Impreza and Legacy. But $25k-$32k is WRX/Legacy GT range. It's a bit difficult to justify pricing the Subaru Coupe for more than a WRX. Especially since it's supposed to be more of a bare essential car vs a cushy/quick WRX.

[OldSkoolToys]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

I have no problem with the parts bin aspect of this car. Hell the AE86 shared a lot of parts with the Corolla of its time, right? You are correct, at $19k, Subaru/Toyota have to share parts. There is nothing wrong with that. You need to judge the car as a sum of its parts, not based on each and every component on its own. There were rumors that Toyota was spending a lot of time on the AC unit of this project to get it as light as possible, weren't they? Even more expensive sports cars share chassis, components and designs of "lower" models. No biggie for me.

Hahahahahahahahahahahaa....IF ONLY!

The answer is no, otherwise getting parts for my car from local pick yards would be a breeze...always a few AE82's on the lot.

Some things are interchangeable, yes, but not with the fronter corolla's of the same era. Because the AE86 is RWD, unlike other corolla's, a lot of parts were not the same. If you drive an SR-5 AE86 then you can snag a bunch of engine components from the FWD rollas, but the 4A-C was a relatively common engine during that time. Have a GT-S with the 4A-GE? It gets way more selective (And I mean super selective...because the 4A-GE in the MR2 was not used in a RWD format, even some 4A-GE parts cannot be swapped between its engine and an AE86 4A-GE).

Off the top of my head you can use the steering rack from an AW11, if you're doing a full non-PS setup on the AE86, shocks from a camaro...rear end from an RA Celica GT-S...I'm sure there are more "parts bin" goodies you can interchange, but unfortunately (because the AE82 is so freekin' common in yards), not much is shared between the AE82 and AE86.

[Zaku]

I'm prolly like everyone else when it comes to wondering about what's different between the Sub and scion. I always have The impression that the sub would cost (great thay its under 20k I love that)more but now if the sub is 19 and scion is expected 22k what's the diff between The two unless some how the scion cost less. But that doesn't make sense because of TC. This Is aure trippy.

[blur]

Based on

{average}Impreza $17.5k-$20.7k; Legacy $20k-$31.4k

{average}[($20.7k + $31k) / 2 = $26k] mid range "Premium" BRZ model. That means leather, sound system, power everything and a sport tuned engine, automatic(?).

Now, taking into account performance,

Impreza 2.5i $17.5k 170HP; Legacy 3.6R $25k 256HP

{average}[(170HP + 256HP) / 2 = 213HP], close to the expected hp output of the BRZ.

{average}[($17.5 + $25k) / 2 = $21.25k] so

[$26K - $2K(auto(?)+"Premium") = $24k] base price, and

{average of HP based price and derived base price}[($21.25 + $24k) / 2 = $22.63k] , an estimated base price of mine. lol.

I hope we have an option of putting the 256HP boxer in there too.

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by blur

Based on

{average}Impreza $17.5k-$20.7k; Legacy $20k-$31.4k

{average}[($20.7k + $31k) / 2 = $26k] mid range "Premium" BRZ model. That means leather, sound system, power everything and a sport tuned engine, automatic(?).

Now, taking into account performance,

Impreza 2.5i $17.5k 170HP; Legacy 3.6R $25k 256HP

{average}[(170HP + 256HP) / 2 = 213HP], close to the expected hp output of the BRZ.

{average}[($17.5 + $25k) / 2 = $21.25k] so

[$26K - $2K(auto(?)+"Premium") = $24k] base price, and

{average of HP based price and derived base price}[($21.25 + $24k) / 2 = $22.63k] , an estimated base price of mine. lol.

I hope we have an option of putting the 256HP boxer in there too.

This is the strangest use of "logic" and math I have yet seen on this site so far.

[blur]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

This is the strangest use of "logic" and math I have yet seen on this site so far.

You don't see it do you? Its not the easiest thing to understand. I'll bet that the base price will come close to that number however.

The wait ensues.

[1660]

Originally Posted by blur

Based on

{average}Impreza $17.5k-$20.7k; Legacy $20k-$31.4k

{average}[($20.7k + $31k) / 2 = $26k] mid range "Premium" BRZ model. That means leather, sound system, power everything and a sport tuned engine, automatic(?).

Now, taking into account performance,

Impreza 2.5i $17.5k 170HP; Legacy 3.6R $25k 256HP

{average}[(170HP + 256HP) / 2 = 213HP], close to the expected hp output of the BRZ.

{average}[($17.5 + $25k) / 2 = $21.25k] so

[$26K - $2K(auto(?)+"Premium") = $24k] base price, and

{average of HP based price and derived base price}[($21.25 + $24k) / 2 = $22.63k] , an estimated base price of mine. lol.

I hope we have an option of putting the 256HP boxer in there too.

You manipulated numbers to get the outcome you wanted.

[blur]

Dont over analyze it, I was just playing with numbers. Gosh.

[PAImportTuner]

Originally Posted by blur

Dont over analyze it, I was just playing with numbers. Gosh.

I understand what you did and where you're coming from, these are not exact but close and generalized. One thing you got to keep in mind on the forums is members are not in the same state of mind as you and average age on this forum is pretty low.

If you did this on a BMW/Subaru/MINI(anything but a Honda or Toyota forum, which this is) forum you'll get a good response, debate or someone dissecting and refining your equation, which you could arguably accept or rebuttal and so on.

I just wanted to let you know so you don't get too agitated.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by PAImportTuner

I understand what you did and where you're coming from, these are not exact but close and generalized. One thing you got to keep in mind on the forums is members are not in the same state of mind as you and average age on this forum is pretty low.

If you did this on a BMW/Subaru/MINI(anything but a Honda or Toyota forum, which this is) forum you'll get a good response, debate or someone dissecting and refining your equation, which you could arguably accept or rebuttal and so on.

I just wanted to let you know so you don't get too agitated.

lol sorry PA, but you never been to NASIOC huh. Man, that place is cold blooded place. You think, I'm a jackass but some of NASIOC members make me look like a nice guy.

[Allch Chcar]

Originally Posted by PAImportTuner

I understand what you did and where you're coming from, these are not exact but close and generalized. One thing you got to keep in mind on the forums is members are not in the same state of mind as you and average age on this forum is pretty low.

If you did this on a BMW/Subaru/MINI(anything but a Honda or Toyota forum, which this is) forum you'll get a good response, debate or someone dissecting and refining your equation, which you could arguably accept or rebuttal and so on.

I just wanted to let you know so you don't get too agitated.

Try to start a topic about a RWD N/A 4 cylinder Bimmer(not a Mini) on an US Bimmer forum, I dare you. We're a hellofa lot more laid back here about what topics we debate and ideas we consider.

Nice attempt Blur, it was a good exercise in trying to find an answer with Math, but I can't see the logic in comparing HP or luxury trims for this car. We're getting the same HP regardless of trim so . Considering the Scion is a "base" model, I don't see the point of comparing anything beyond base and mid range between the Impreza and Legacy, we're not getting the top end turbo models with this car.

[Marrk]

This feels like the right time and place to say that ft86club.com is a pretty cool place. Hope it stays that way.