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Old 09-24-2012, 11:30 AM   #15
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I have an ELM327 bluetooth OBD2 adapter. Works flawlessly.

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Are u able to use faster communications without error message? i had the same one and it wuddnt read unless it was phone
Not 100% sure I understand your question. I've had no issues using it that I can determine, but I've only used it two or three times.
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Do a search on eBay for elm327 super mini. it's the one in this pic. About the quarter if the size if the original elm. Does not hang below the dash when plugged in. 15 $ shipped on eBay

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It's 1.5 as well

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Will definitely have to pick one of those up. The older model I have is definitely too long for me to feel comfortable driving with it for any length of time.
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Not 100% sure I understand your question. I've had no issues using it that I can determine, but I've only used it two or three times.
In the torque app under obd2 adapater setting. There is a preference that allows faster communication with the interface but it doesnt work with some devices. When this setting is turned on the data seems to work faster and u can see the difference when u check your revs..it registers so much faster. but with the old elm that setting always gave me an error message
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Here is a pic of the original elm 327 then a pic of the mini then the super mini.

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Do these need to be charged before installing to the port or will it be powered while plugged in ? I just ordered Elm 327 1.5 super mini
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Do these need to be charged before installing to the port or will it be powered while plugged in ? I just ordered Elm 327 1.5 super mini
no charging its powered when plugged in
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In the torque app under obd2 adapater setting. There is a preference that allows faster communication with the interface but it doesnt work with some devices. When this setting is turned on the data seems to work faster and u can see the difference when u check your revs..it registers so much faster. but with the old elm that setting always gave me an error message
Gotcha, now I understand. I don't believe I've tried that particular setting but now I do remember it.
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What version of Torque is everyone using? The Lite or the Pro version and is the Pro worth the cost?

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I have the GoPoint BT1 adapter. It's not the cheapest out there but haven't had any issues other than bumping it by accident and it caused a CEL (code=U0073-Communication Bus Error). I used it on my iPhone 4S and iPad2.

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What parameters are supported by our OBDII system?

I found a random list and highlighted the ones I feel are important. I know not all are supported in most cars. Asides from the "cool" factor i'd love to get some real world uses out of our OBDII system. Oil Temp and Coolant Temp is a big plus for track days.

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Air Fuel Ratio – overall air to fuel ratio of the vehicle being commanded.

Air Fuel Ratio BX-SX (up to 8) – air to fuel ratio of the vehicle computed for one bank (i.e. one oxygen sensor).

+Analog In (4 inputs, 3 ranges each) – the analog input voltage measured on the DashDyno auxiliary port.

Average Economy – the average fuel economy of the vehicle over time.

Battery Voltage – the vehicle battery voltage.

Boost Pressure – the pressure measured within the intake manifold.

+Digital In 1 – the digital input state (high or low) measured on the DashDyno auxiliary port.

Distance Traveled – distance traveled by the vehicle. This is not the odometer.

Drive Time – the engine running time.

Fuel Cost – the cost per gallon or liter of fuel.

Fuel Used – amount of fuel used by the vehicle.

Idle Percent – the ratio of Drive Time vs. Idle Time.

Idle Time – the engine idling time defined as the motor running with the vehicle speed at 0.

Instant Economy – is defined as the instantaneous fuel economy of the vehicle (e.g. MPG).

+GPS HDOP - horizontal dilution of precision. A measure of the GPS receiver’s position horizontal accuracy. The lower the number the more accurate the reading.

+GPS Satellites – the number of satellites currently being tracked by an external GPS receiver.

+GPS Speed – the speed of the vehicle as reported by an external GPS receiver.

Absolute Evaporative Vapor Pres – the evaporative system vapor pressure normally obtained from a sensor located in the fuel tank or a sensor in an evaporative system vapor line.

Absolute Load Value – indicates a percentage of peak available torque. The normalized value of air mass per intake stroke displayed as a percent.

Absolute Throttle Position (up to 3) – the absolute throttle position (not the relative or learned) throttle position. Usually above 0% at idle and less than 100% at full throttle.

Accelerator Pedal Pos (up to 4) – the absolute pedal position (not the relative or learned) pedal position.

Actual EGR A Duty (up to 2) – actual EGR displayed as a percent.

Actual Engine Torque – the calculated output torque of the engine.

Air Flow Rate From MAF – indicates the airflow rate as measured by the mass airflow sensor.

Alcohol Fuel Percentage – percentage of alcohol fuel contained in ethanol or methanol fuels.

Ambient Air Temperature – displays the ambient air temperature.

Average Demanded Consumption – average demanded reagent consumption by the engine system either over the previous complete 48 hour period of engine operation or the period needed for a demanded reagent consumption of at least 15 liters, whichever is longer.

Average Reagent Consumption – average reagent consumption by the engine system either over the previous complete 48 hour period of engine operation or the period needed for a demanded reagent consumption of at least 15 liters, whichever is longer.

Barometric Pressure – barometric pressure normally obtained from a dedicated barometric sensor. Note some weather services report barometric pressure adjusted to sea level. In these cases, the reported value may not match the displayed value.

Boost Pressure A (up to 2) –the actual turbocharger/supercharger pressure.

Calculated Load Value – indicates a percentage of peak available torque. Reaches 100% at wide open throttle at any altitude or RPM for both naturally aspirated and boosted engines.

Catalyst Temp Bank X – Sensor X (up to 4) –the catalyst substrate temperature.

Charge Air Cooler Temp BXSX – (up to 4) – the charge air cooler temperature.

Commanded Boost Pressure A (up to 2) – the ECU commanded turbocharger/supercharger pressure.

Commanded Fuel Rail Pressure A (up to 2) – the commanded fuel rail pressure when the reading is referenced to atmosphere (gauge pressure).

Commanded Injection Pressure A (up to 2) – the commanded injection control pressure.

Commanded Throttle Actuator A (up to 2) – the commanded throttle actuator. 0% fully closed and 100% fully open.

Commanded Variable Turbo A (up to 2) – the variable geometry turbocharger commanded vane position as a percent.

Commanded Throttle Actuator – displays 0% when the throttle is commanded closed and 100% when the throttle commanded open.

Commanded EGR (up to 3) – display 0% when the EGR is commanded off, 100% when the EGR system is commanded on, and if the EGR is duty cycled somewhere between 0% and 100%.

Commanded Equivalence Ratio – the commanded equivalence ratio (also known as lambda) while the fuel system. Fuel systems that use conventional oxygen sensors display the commanded open loop equivalence ratio while the system is in open loop. Should report 100% when in closed loop fuel. Fuel systems that utilize wide-range/linear oxygen sensors shall display the commanded ratio in both open-loop and closed-loop operation.

Commanded Evaporative Purge – displays 0% when no evaporative purge is commanded and 100% at the maximum commanded purge position/flow.

Commanded Intake Air A (up to 2) – the commanded air intake displayed as a percent. Also known as EGR Throttle on compression ignition engineers.

Commanded Wastegate A (up to 2) – the commanded wastegate position as a percent. 0% is fully closed (full boost) and 100% fully open (dump boost).

Control Module Voltage – power input to the control module. Normally the battery voltage, less any voltage drop between the battery and the control module.

Distance Since DTCs Cleared – distance accumulated since DTCs where cleared with a scan tool.

Distance Traveled MIL On – accumulates the vehicle distance traveled while the MIL light is illuminated.

DPF Delta Pressure BX (up to 2) – diesel particulate filter delta pressure.

DPF Inlet Pressure BX (up to 2) – diesel particulate filter inlet pressure.

DPF Inlet Temp BX (up to 2) – diesel particulate filter inlet temperature.

DPF Outlet Pressure BX (up to 2) – diesel particulate filter outlet pressure.

DPF Outlet Temp BX (up to 2) – diesel particulate filter outlet temperature.

Driver Demand Torque – the requested torque output of the engine by the driver.

EGR Error (up to 3) – error as percent of actual commanded EGR. Negative percent is less than commanded and positive is more than commanded.

EGR Temperature BX-SX (up to 4) – the EGR gas temperature.

Engine Coolant Temp (up to 3) – engine coolant temperature derived from an engine coolant temperature sensor or a cylinder head temperature sensor.

Engine Fuel Rate – amount of fuel consumed by the engine per unit of time in liters per hour.

Engine Oil Temp – engine oil temperature.

Engine Reference Torque – display the engine reference torque value. This value does not change.

Engine RPM – displays the current engine revolutions per minute value.

Engine Torque Idle Point – the torque limit that indicates the available engine torque that can be provided by the engine at idle speed.

Engine Torque Point X (up to 4) – the torque limit that indicates the available engine torque that can be provided by the engine point X of the engine map.

Equivalence Ratio BX-SX (up to 16) - is defined as the ratio of the fuel-to-oxidizer ratio to the stoichiometric fuel-to-oxidizer ratio.

Evaporative System Vapor Press – evaporative system vapor pressure normally obtained from a sensor located in the fuel tank.

Exhaust Gas Temp BX-SX – exhaust gas temperature.

Exhaust Gas Pressure BX – exhaust gas pressure.

Fuel Injection Timing – the start of the mail fuel injection relative to Top Dead Center (TDC). Positive degrees indicate before TDC. Negative degrees indicate after TDC.

Fuel Level Input – indicates the nominal fuel tank liquid fill capacity as a percent of maximum.

Fuel Rail Press Relative Manifold – displays the fuel rail pressure referenced to the manifold vacuum (relative pressure).

Fuel Rail Pressure – indicates the fuel rail pressure at the engine referenced to atmosphere (gauge pressure).

Fuel Rail Pressure (abs) – fuel rail pressure at the engine when the reading is absolute.

Fuel Rail Pressure (gauge) – displays the fuel injection rail pressure at the engine when the reading is referenced to atmosphere (gauge pressure).

Fuel Rail Pressure A (up to 2) – fuel rail pressure when the reading is referenced to atmosphere (gauge pressure).

Fuel Rate – the rate at which fuel is consumed by the engine in gallons/hour or liters/hour.

Fuel Rail Temp A (up to 2) – the fuel rail temperature.

Hybrid Battery Pack Life – the percent remaining life for the hybrid battery pack.

Ignition Timing Advance – ignition timing advance for #1 cylinder (not including any mechanical advance).

Injection Pressure A (up to 2) - the injection control pressure.

Intake Air Temp BX-SX – displays the intake manifold air temperature.

Intake Air Temperature – displays the intake manifold air temperature.

Intake Manifold Absolute Pressure A (up to 2) – intake manifold absolute pressure.

Intake Manifold Pressure – indicates the manifold pressure derived from a Manifold Absolute Pressure sensor.

Long Term Fuel Trim-BX (up to 4) – indicates the correction being used by the fuel control system in both open and closed loop modes of operation.

Long Term Fuel Trim BX-SX (up to 8) - indicates the correction being used by the fuel control system in both open and closed loop modes of operation.

Manifold Surface Temp – intake manifold surface temperature.

Mass Air Flow A (up to 2) – airflow rate as measured by a vehicle MAF sensor or an equivalent source.

Minutes Run with MIL On – accumulated minutes of engine run time while the MIL light is on.

NOx Concentration BX-SX (up to 2) – NOx concentration.

O2 Sensor BX-SX Wide Range mA (up to 8) – shows milliamps for linear or wide-ratio oxygen sensors.

O2 Sensor BX-SX Wide Range V (up to 8) – shows voltage for linear or wide-ratio oxygen sensors.

O2 Sensor BX-SX (up to 8) – indicates the voltage for conventional 0 to 1V oxygen sensors. O2 sensors with a different full-scale voltage shall be normalized to this range or, if a wide range sensor, may use the wide range parameters instead.

PM Mass Concentration BX-SX (up to 2) – particulate matter mass concentration.

Reagent Tank Level – nominal reagent tank liquid fill capacity as a percent of maximum.

Relative Throttle A Position (up to 2) - relative or “learned” throttle position.

Relative Throttle Position – relative or “learned” throttle position.

Relative Accelerator Pedal Pos - relative or “learned” pedal position.

Relative Intake Air A (up to 2) – actual intake airflow position displayed as a percent. Also knows as EGR Throttle Position on compression ignition engines.

Run Time NOx Warn – run time of the engine while NOx warning mode is activated.

Short Term Fuel Trim-BX (up to 4) – indicates the correction being used by the closed loop fuel algorithm. If the fuel system is open loop, 0% correction should be reported.

Short Term Fuel Trim BX-SX (up to 8) - indicates the correction being used by the closed loop fuel algorithm. If the fuel system is open loop, 0% correction should be reported.

Short Term Sec Fuel Trim BX (up to 4) – short term secondary O2 sensor fuel trim shall indicate the correction being utilized by the closed-loop fuel algorithm. If the fuel system is open loop, 0% correction should be reported.

Time Since DTCs Cleared – engine run time accumulated since DTCs were cleared.

Time Since Engine Start – indicates the elapsed time since the engine was started while the engine is running.

Total Engine Idle Time – total engine idle time for the life of vehicle.

Total Engine Run Time – total engine run time for the life of vehicle.

Total Engine Run w/PTO – total engine run time with PTO (power take off) engaged for the life of the vehicle.

Total Run w/IE-ACED X (up to 10) – total engine run time with Emission Increasing Auxiliary Emission Control Device active for the life of the vehicle.

Turbo A In Compressor (up to 2) – turbocharger compressor inlet temperature.

Turbo A In Turbine Temp (up to 2) – turbocharger turbine inlet temperature.

Turbo A Inlet Pressure (up to 2) – turbocharger inlet pressure.

Turbo A Out Compressor (up to 2) – turbocharger compressor outlet temperature.

Turbo A Out Turbine Temp (up to 2) – turbocharger turbine outlet temperature.

Turbo A RPM (up to 2) – turbocharger revolutions per minute.

Variable Turbo A (up to 2) – variable geometry turbocharger actual vane position as a percent. 0% when vanes are fully bypassed and 100% when the vanes are fully utilized.

Vehicle Speed – displays the vehicle road speed.

Warm-ups Since DTCs Cleared – number of warm-up cycles since all DTCs were cleared via a scan tool. A warm-up is defined as the coolant temperature rising by at least 22°C (40°F) and the engine temperature reaches at a minimum 70°C (160°F) (60°C (140°F) for diesels).

Wastegate A (up to 2) – actual wastegate position as a percent. 0% wastegate is off (allow full boost) and 100% fully open (dump boost).
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I have not used it yet but in torque there is a plugin that allows you to record with the camera and it will overlay the car data on the video. Including GPS. Pretty bad ass.

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I have the GoPoint BT1 adapter. It's not the cheapest out there but haven't had any issues other than bumping it by accident and it caused a CEL (code=U0073-Communication Bus Error). I used it on my iPhone 4S and iPad2.

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Just bought the Elm327 mini. I'll will try it w/ bluedriver for iphone.
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