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01s0uljah · 08-22-2012, 02:46 PM

Picked up my car yesterday and the CEL and Traction light came on after 40KM.

Brought it to the dealership today to have it service and they wanted to reset the ECU to clear the light. I pulled off the lot and approached the first light and BAM the lights came back on. Pulled a U-Turn and went straight back. Its been in the shop since this morning...

They are waiting for Subaru techs to get back to the dealership with the next action... This is really not looking too good.

alrashwa · 08-22-2012, 02:52 PM

Welcome to the club.

Shizzaw · 08-23-2012, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Roboto

We called Scion on Monday and got a case number! Scion called us back today but they had no idea either. Toyota of Escondido told us they are waiting for the part from Scion and when the part comes they will call us! Just made my first payment n insurance on the car but we barely took four trips with it

Even though we seemed to have bad luck with our cars, its nice to know another whiteout owner in the area.

Lonewolf · 08-23-2012, 12:08 AM

What is that, at least 6 members in CA with these CEL's...?

Hawaiian · 08-23-2012, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Lonewolf

What is that, at least 6 members in CA with these CEL's...?

2 things to help with that...

1) California has a large population.

2) California has a lot of auto enthusiast.

I'm guessing cali has more twins than any other state.

tintumz22 · 08-23-2012, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by alrashwa

Third week for me. I've done my own digging and I've found that basically the techs lack the knowledge to fix the cars, coupled with the fact that Toyota and Subaru want to keep the repair attempts to a minimum to prevent bad press.

The local Dealership diagnosed my car without contacting Scion Corp. the first time, they ended up with a stern lecture and orders not to make any changes to the car without prior approval.

It really is a "Beta" experience in these territories where the car was not extensively tested it would seem. Not to mention the longer they keep the car, the more useful it is as a test bed for them. I already assume that the service techs are out there beating the shit out of mine, but I guess it's to be expected.

Man I would be pissed about that!!! As one member said that they can't diagnose this car on their own with no signal/order from Toyota. Toyota strictly wanted these problems be handled with their guidance. You as an owner have the right to request that. I'm just talking based on my experience. I really told them to let me know what's going on and to strictly wait for Toyota's higher engineer/corporate tech or whatever to tell the local tech what to do. At my dealer they know those stuff.

Demandred7 · 08-23-2012, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by tintumz22

Yeah. there are variety of VIN #s it ranges not just in a single batch. hopefully everything will be alright tomorrow for the testing. and looking forward getting mine tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by alrashwa

I'm just waiting to see the VIN range for this issue. Definitely not an uncommon defect from the threads I've seen.

FYI: VINS are not sequential when they are built. Build details were given to me as a part of my package from the dealer. Those details are more relevant.

Mr.Roboto · 08-23-2012, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Shizzaw

Even though we seemed to have bad luck with our cars, its nice to know another whiteout owner in the area.

Yes it is! Did Toyota of Temecula called you yet? Scion supposes to call us tomorrow with updates!

White64Goat · 08-23-2012, 08:09 AM

More BRZ's are beginning to go down. Check other threads in the 'Warranty' thread and look for the "Idle Problem" and "CEL Just Came On". Not good..........

Shizzaw · 08-23-2012, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Roboto

Yes it is! Did Toyota of Temecula called you yet? Scion supposes to call us tomorrow with updates!

The didn't call me yesterday. I think I'm gonna stop by there after work today and raise a little hell. I'm getting extremely pissed off about this. By car has been there for almost 2 weeks now and they don't even have an estimate on when the new ECU will be shipped. I leave town for 2 weeks on Sunday and would like my car back before then. I don't want to leave this headache for my wife to deal with.

Mr.Roboto · 08-23-2012, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Shizzaw

The didn't call me yesterday. I think I'm gonna stop by there after work today and raise a little hell. I'm getting extremely pissed off about this. By car has been there for almost 2 weeks now and they don't even have an estimate on when the new ECU will be shipped. I leave town for 2 weeks on Sunday and would like my car back before then. I don't want to leave this headache for my wife to deal with.

Please let us update to what Toyota/Scion will do for you? At least a few month payments would be paid by them since our cars are sitting in the dealership!

soconfoozed · 08-23-2012, 08:27 PM

Well, there goes my confidence that I'm actually getting my car back tomorrow. They ordered the wrong part. And then, they didn't next day the right part. So instead of working on solving the hard problem (let's make the car work, guys), which I accept, we're working on solving a completely silly problem (get the right parts), which is about the fastest shortcut to the end of my patience that I can think of.

Dumb. Just dumb.

Allegedly, the right parts will be in tomorrow AM. So, there remains some remote chance that I'll have my car back. However, getting the parts on time would have allowed for something else to go wrong, and still have time to recover. So, things have to go swimmingly tomorrow. What are the odds of that? They seem low.

Not how you run a project, guys.

You'd think Subaru would be more on top of this, to get data to engineering as quickly as possible and get a hotfix into production. How do you send the wrong-side component when you have a sensor code? Is anybody even checking this?

STEVEOSTI · 08-24-2012, 12:07 AM

Make that another confirmed case...I picked up the car last friday and had the P0019 code pop Sunday morning minutes after getting home. Put exactly one tank of fuel through it. Had towed back to dealer Monday morning, the kept it until yesterday and simply cleared the code and road tested and informed me it was good to go and I could come pick it up.

Well, showed up to pick it up today and was showing my dad the car as it warmed up and before even putting it in gear the light was back on. The dealer informed me they simply disconnected the battery as per subaru's suggestion. The code was cleared again and was back on before we made it 10KM from the dealership. Nothing fixed, but also no adverse affects felt. This isn't good........

alrashwa · 08-24-2012, 12:42 AM

That's odd that they had that many false diagnoses considering Subaru has a well documented TSB for the P0019 and many other related Camshaft codes.

Tell them to look up TSB 02-132-12

08-23-2012, 08:27 PM	#292
soconfoozed Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2013 BRZ Limited 6MT WR Blue Pearl Location: San Diego Posts: 147 Thanks: 27 Thanked 90 Times in 47 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Well, there goes my confidence that I'm actually getting my car back tomorrow. They ordered the wrong part. And then, they didn't next day the right part. So instead of working on solving the hard problem (let's make the car work, guys), which I accept, we're working on solving a completely silly problem (get the right parts), which is about the fastest shortcut to the end of my patience that I can think of. Dumb. Just dumb. Allegedly, the right parts will be in tomorrow AM. So, there remains some remote chance that I'll have my car back. However, getting the parts on time would have allowed for something else to go wrong, and still have time to recover. So, things have to go swimmingly tomorrow. What are the odds of that? They seem low. Not how you run a project, guys. You'd think Subaru would be more on top of this, to get data to engineering as quickly as possible and get a hotfix into production. How do you send the wrong-side component when you have a sensor code? Is anybody even checking this? __________________ 2013 BRZ Limited 6MT WR Blue Pearl

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08-22-2012, 02:46 PM	#281
01s0uljah Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: SWP Subaru BRZ Sport-Tech 6AT Location: Toronto Posts: 218 Thanks: 2 Thanked 35 Times in 22 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Picked up my car yesterday and the CEL and Traction light came on after 40KM. Brought it to the dealership today to have it service and they wanted to reset the ECU to clear the light. I pulled off the lot and approached the first light and BAM the lights came back on. Pulled a U-Turn and went straight back. Its been in the shop since this morning... They are waiting for Subaru techs to get back to the dealership with the next action... This is really not looking too good.

08-22-2012, 02:52 PM	#282
alrashwa Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: '12 370Z Monterey Blue Location: Washington Posts: 230 Thanks: 120 Thanked 60 Times in 42 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Welcome to the club.

08-23-2012, 12:08 AM	#284
Lonewolf Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: Moped Location: CA Posts: 4,300 Thanks: 4,905 Thanked 2,131 Times in 1,195 Posts Mentioned: 21 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	What is that, at least 6 members in CA with these CEL's...?

08-23-2012, 08:09 AM	#289
White64Goat Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 13 BRZ CBS LTD MT, 02 WRX Location: Fred. Co. Md. Posts: 2,349 Thanks: 65 Thanked 1,113 Times in 628 Posts Mentioned: 19 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	More BRZ's are beginning to go down. Check other threads in the 'Warranty' thread and look for the "Idle Problem" and "CEL Just Came On". Not good..........

08-24-2012, 12:07 AM	#293
STEVEOSTI Speed Freak Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2005 Subaru WRX STi Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 48 Thanks: 30 Thanked 25 Times in 12 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Make that another confirmed case...I picked up the car last friday and had the P0019 code pop Sunday morning minutes after getting home. Put exactly one tank of fuel through it. Had towed back to dealer Monday morning, the kept it until yesterday and simply cleared the code and road tested and informed me it was good to go and I could come pick it up. Well, showed up to pick it up today and was showing my dad the car as it warmed up and before even putting it in gear the light was back on. The dealer informed me they simply disconnected the battery as per subaru's suggestion. The code was cleared again and was back on before we made it 10KM from the dealership. Nothing fixed, but also no adverse affects felt. This isn't good........

08-24-2012, 12:42 AM	#294
alrashwa Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: '12 370Z Monterey Blue Location: Washington Posts: 230 Thanks: 120 Thanked 60 Times in 42 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	That's odd that they had that many false diagnoses considering Subaru has a well documented TSB for the P0019 and many other related Camshaft codes. Tell them to look up TSB 02-132-12

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