downshifting to second

[Ohio Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by Capt Spaulding

You could also try this,

a. put the car in neutral and try pushing it.

Then,

b, put it in first and have someone depress the clutch and try pushing it. In my fairly lengthy experience a car in gear with the clutch disengaged is more difficult to push than a car in neutral.

Perfect! Just tried that. I don't think there's constant drag, rather during the first movement of the car the clutch does drags but then it lets go. I'm not sure if that's would happen with the engine on and everything already spinning, but I'm willing to accept that as a possible explanation to what people are describing.

[Capt Spaulding]

Originally Posted by Ohio Enthusiast

Perfect! Just tried that. I don't think there's constant drag, rather during the first movement of the car the clutch does drags but then it lets go. I'm not sure if that's would happen with the engine on and everything already spinning, but I'm willing to accept that as a possible explanation to what people are describing.

K As I noted it's nothing like you'd see in a multi-plate wet clutch, but I think its there. How much it does is another question. Enjoy

[Decep]

Definitely need to double clutch when the car is cold. Takes a few miles for everything to warm up.

These cars definitely have some Dr Jeckly and Mr Hyde thing going.

Wonder how the new models compare

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Ohio Enthusiast

An interesting theory. I'm pretty sure it's wrong, but there's an easy test for it - while standing still with the engine on, depress the clutch pedal. Move the gear lever through the lower gears.
Then rev the engine to high RPM and move the gear lever again. If your theory is correct, there should be a noticeable difference in the movement of the lever. I'll try it out the next time I'm driving.

These guys are right. I double clutch out of super old-school habit and I used to swear that a throttle blip did nothing until I tried it on this car. Damned if a good solid rev way above the target speed didn't do the trick. Then, if timed to help the syncro clutch do its job, instead of replacing it altogether in a double clutch, it actually does work.


I still double clutch because, well, I'm my dad's son.

[blsfrs]

Originally Posted by Capt Spaulding

K As I noted it's nothing like you'd see in a multi-plate wet clutch, but I think its there. How much it does is another question. Enjoy

H
Just to throw in my 1.5 cent's worth. With clutch pedal fully depressed, there should be absolutely no drag on the clutch surfaces. Otherwise, it would grind every you put the car in reverse.

[evidence]

i am like new to car community stuff so im kinda stupid but you guys are so nice ily all <3

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by evidence

i am like new to car community stuff so im kinda stupid but you guys are so nice ily all <3

haha... <3

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by Ohio Enthusiast

Sounds like you're not talking about rev-matching but something else. Rev-matching is hitting the throttle pedal while the clutch is depressed. It only speeds up the flywheel and has no bearing on the transmission whatsoever.

I am talking about rev matching but you are right. I am mistaking the overall smoothness of the process vs. getting the shifter in the gate. I really don't have an issue with my car unless it starts to get under 40F and that is just for the first shift or so.