Heel Toe Downshifting

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

Ok, maybe I'll install mine tomorrow. after all, I've had it for a couple years. Any installment tips?

use your hands?

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

Ok, maybe I'll install mine tomorrow. after all, I've had it for a couple years. Any installment tips?

Have someone else do it.

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise

Haha I'm the exact opposite from you. I learned heel-toe the classic way on Hondas, but started using the ride side of my toes with my STI hatch because the transmission tunnel blocked my heel from reaching the throttle pedal. I find this method still works best for me on the FR-S. It must be really dependent on how people's feet are shaped...

i call it the toe-toe method. i've brought it up a few times before, and everyone looks at me like i recommended using your elbow.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by soundman98

i call it the toe-toe method. i've brought it up a few times before, and everyone looks at me like i recommended using your elbow.

It's how I do it. Toe-toe, I mean. Not my elbow.

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Have someone else do it.

Total FU.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

Total FU.

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by soundman98

use your hands?

That deserves a semi FU.

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

A Hungarian growth chart.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

A Hungarian growth chart.

lolfu

[EndlessAzure]

Originally Posted by henry.haden

I’ve been looking into setting up my BRZ for heel toe downshifting. As I am sure you all know, the stock pedal setup is not ideal for this. I am torn between a throttle spacer kit and an Accelerator Pedal. Here are the URLs. Let me know what you all think.


https://www.ft86speedfactory.com/srp...l#.XpORwxZq0lQ


https://www.ft86speedfactory.com/vel...l#.XpOR7hZq0lQ


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I have relatively small feet. I wear size 8 shoes, and I often drive with low sole and narrow profile shoes (Vans Classics or Puma Vedano / "Motorsport" style shoes).

I "toe" with the ball of my foot under my big toe, and I "heel" either with the lower part of the ball of my pinky toe and/or my foot arch.

That being said, the only pedal mod that I feel is needed is a pedal overlay. I use the Cusco Sports Accel Pedal. If you are applying sufficient braking and have good foot position, then the pedal overlay should be sufficient.

If you add the spacer to the mix (which raises the position of the accelerator pedal), it will likely be too high for comfortable heel-toe shifting when under hard braking. In other words, the side of your foot might collide with the side of the accel pedal.

Finally, a few other considerations you might want to be mindful of to improve your heel-toe shifting:

1. Practice, practice, practice. If you have the right technique, your heel-toe method will be consistent, whether on "track" or "street"
2. The stock throttle map is a bit mushy at the beginning of the pedal throw. That means you really need to emphasize the accelerator blip and give it gas to get the revs you need. I have a "race throttle" map from my Stage 2 tune, which was night and day for heel-toe.
3. The higher the revs, usually the easier it is to blip the throttle. Generally, I don't do heel-toe unless the engine revs are at least 3k RPM. Lower than that, there is usually not enough time to comfortably rev and shift through the gears.

[NLSP]

Originally Posted by henry.haden

I’ve been looking into setting up my BRZ for heel toe downshifting. As I am sure you all know, the stock pedal setup is not ideal for this. I am torn between a throttle spacer kit and an Accelerator Pedal. Here are the URLs. Let me know what you all think.


https://www.ft86speedfactory.com/srp...l#.XpORwxZq0lQ


https://www.ft86speedfactory.com/vel...l#.XpOR7hZq0lQ


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I've had the SRP pedal for about 5 years now. It's been a blessing since the day I've installed it, makes heel-toe so much easier. Much cheaper than the Velox spacer too.

[theneptune86]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

perfect for 7/10+

THIS.

Also, I feel like I'm ripping myself off by not developing and selling my own pedal spacer kit for the next 86 platform, which inevitably won't have a "good enough" pedal spacing setup when it comes out

[StraightOuttaCanadaEh]

I have the SRP pedal for 3 years now. 2 minute install and heel and toeing is perfect now

[NoHaveMSG]

You can get a 10mm(3/8) spacer under the stock pedal assembly and still use the stock hardware to mount it. Keep in mind you will need to adjust or space out your pedal stop too. I cut a piece of UHMW and used it as a spacer with the Cusco pedal. Works perfect for me, I wear 8.5-9s. I am working on some 3D printed spacers now out of PETG with different offsets.