What attributes should Toyota and Subaru retain in the Second Generation FT-86 (aka - Page 7 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Tcoat · 10-15-2019, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by NWFRS

Yup. Wishful thinking. I'm trying to prepare myself to see my car become obsolete overnight.

Ahhh but the newest is not always the best. You have as good a chance of seeing your at become the legend compared to the newer version.

Leonardo · 10-15-2019, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by NWFRS

I'll be a bit envious for sure if the next-gen 86 has a 2.5 or 3 litre flat-six or something.

If it gets this kind of engine. It will base out at $36,975.

I sure won't be envious of the payments!

NWFRS · 10-15-2019, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

Ahhh but the newest is not always the best. You have as good a chance of seeing your at become the legend compared to the newer version.

Lol. I think it's pretty far from "legend" status but I actually love the AT. I tried real hard to like the modern manual and I just couldn't warm up to it. Old manuals just had such a great feel to me, even if that feel was actually crap. But this is probably the biggest reason I want a torque bump. The AT really needs it.

As far as styling goes I figure there's a 50/50 chance Toyota will cock-up the new one. After a recent dealership service they parked my freshly washed car up front next to a brand-new TRD 86. Granted I'm SUPER biased but I actually preferred the look of my '13. Maybe they will turn the new 86 into a mini Zupra.

CrowsFeast · 10-15-2019, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NWFRS

I tried real hard to like the modern manual and I just couldn't warm up to it. Old manuals just had such a great feel to me, even if that feel was actually crap

... the twins honestly have one of the best feeling shifters of all modern cars IMO. They don't have the 'numb' rubber bushing feeling of most passenger cars; instead the shifts actually feel mechanical like you're directly connected to everything.

Tokay444 · 10-15-2019, 03:25 PM

It'd prefer a stout inline 4 over a boxer 4.

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Originally Posted by CrowsFeast

... the twins honestly have one of the best feeling shifters of all modern cars IMO. They don't have the 'numb' rubber bushing feeling of most passenger cars; instead the shifts actually feel mechanical like you're directly connected to everything.

The Miata is every bit that, and far better.

ROFL it's Waffle · 10-16-2019, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CrowsFeast

... the twins honestly have one of the best feeling shifters of all modern cars IMO. They don't have the 'numb' rubber bushing feeling of most passenger cars; instead the shifts actually feel mechanical like you're directly connected to everything.

A solid shifter bushing will fix that.

I'd be happy to see the brz's black mouthguard disappear, and maybe less "activity" in the Toyota front-end.
But to be honest, I'll be happy getting a nice second-hand gen 1 for a reasonable price.

shiumai · 10-16-2019, 04:40 PM

First-year 2nd gen wouldn't be the same experience as 1st gen without some sort of recall requiring the engine to come out.

bcj · 10-16-2019, 04:58 PM

Moar lightness

conehead · 10-16-2019, 05:38 PM

Keep it light and simple. Add a 2.5 motor. Done.

Lantanafrs2 · 10-16-2019, 05:44 PM

Use brand new, unproven valve spring design. Thank you

NoHaveMSG · 10-16-2019, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

Use brand new, unproven valve spring design. Thank you

Go desmodromic. The crickets would be nothing compared to that noise.

Lantanafrs2 · 10-17-2019, 12:50 PM

Is the fa20 the most powerful na motor that Subaru offers?

g e · 10-17-2019, 03:22 PM

It’s possible next gen car has LESS power so as not to crowd the base Supra.

Lantanafrs2 · 10-17-2019, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by g e

It’s possible next gen car has LESS power so as not to crowd the base Supra.

I doubt that they would do that. It wouldn't sell. The 86 has a long way to go before its "crowding " the supra

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