NEW Nissan 240SX in the works

[shadoquad]

Originally Posted by MVJ1975

I have little faith in Nissan, Honda, or Mitsubishi any more. They've all let eco-wacko hybrid beancounters take over and are hell-bent on taking the Boringmobile title Toyota used to be the undisputed master of.

The only reason we have the GT-86 is because Akio Toyoda kicks ass. Without him, no LFA, no GT-86. We'd be looking forward to some "performance" Prius coupe a la the CR-Z. Unless Nissan/Honda gets a similar CEO with a "make a fun car, damn it" focus, we won't be seeing a new Silvia any time soon.

Uh, GTR and Z are not fun cars? New NSX not hitting your happy button? Evo was too boring?

I can agree that Honda makes nothing fun, realistically, but Z's are pretty damn fun cars. So are G37's. As for Mitsu, they're a bit of a debacle.

[DarthNads]

Originally Posted by FT-86GOD

Yep... Bring out a new Silvia and take our money and gt86/BRZ customers...

I'd much rather them do this than make a tiny hatch FWD junker.

Competition is fun, people jump ships/bandwagons all the time anyways.

[Caliban]

that thing is ugly!

[DantKR]

^ Agreed. That thing is NOT a competitor with the FR-S/BRZ.

[MVJ1975]

Originally Posted by shadoquad

Uh, GTR and Z are not fun cars? New NSX not hitting your happy button? Evo was too boring?

I can agree that Honda makes nothing fun, realistically, but Z's are pretty damn fun cars. So are G37's. As for Mitsu, they're a bit of a debacle.

The GT-R I have a healthy amount of respect for, but it's not a car for the masses. I like the Z; it's nice for what it is, but it's a big V6 pony like the Mustang, not a nimble 4cyl like the Silvia.

The Evo is not so much "boring" as too sedany. It and the WRX are soooo close and yet just can't make that leap. They want to be sporty, but there's those extra doors, saying "but, but, but, I have kids, my wife won't let me buy a two door". Imagine, if you will, the Evo. Take it and shorten it, remove the rear doors, and reduce the size of the rear seats into a 2+2 configuration, or remove them entirely. When I look at those cars I always see what they could have been.

With a little FI help, the BRZ will be that car.

[shadoquad]

Originally Posted by MVJ1975

The GT-R I have a healthy amount of respect for, but it's not a car for the masses. I like the Z; it's nice for what it is, but it's a big V6 pony like the Mustang, not a nimble 4cyl like the Silvia.

So, unless a car is 4 cylinder and cheap, it's boring. I understand now, carry on.

[Turbowned]

That's the dumbest idea I've heard in a while. NISSAN! Get off your GT-R crackpipe and start making good sports cars for us commoners!! The Z is big, heavy and noisy and I don't want Robosaurus GT-R to do the driving for me, nor do I want another FWD compact on the market! Get your shit together or I will burn my "Nissan Motorsport" t-shirt and sell my 240Z and you can just go to hell!

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by FT-86GOD

So it's a juke that's gone and bummed a Z.... Had a fwd bum birthed car baby they named mini-z... Gay...

way to be ignorant and offensive

[MVJ1975]

Originally Posted by shadoquad

So, unless a car is 4 cylinder and cheap, it's boring. I understand now, carry on.

Neither the GT-R nor the Z is boring.

The CR-Z is boring, however. So is the Veloster.

[shadoquad]

Originally Posted by MVJ1975

I have little faith in Nissan... ...(they) are hell-bent on taking the Boringmobile title Toyota used to be the undisputed master of.

Originally Posted by MVJ1975

Neither the GT-R nor the Z is boring.

I guess I was confused.

[MVJ1975]

Originally Posted by shadoquad

I guess I was confused.

Not really. While this thread is about the FWD Nissan Asia hatch thing, it's just generalized griping about some of the inexplicable decisions made by Japanese car makers lately and malaise about the seemingly endless litany of hybrid whatsits and FWD odd-number-of-door thingies.

To be honest, I completely forgot about the Fairlady. I've always liked that car. The current iteration is a bit large for my personal tastes, but I do like it quite a bit. Except the convertible. The styling of that leaves me utterly cold.

[shadoquad]

Originally Posted by MVJ1975

Not really. While this thread is about the FWD Nissan Asia hatch thing, it's just generalized griping about some of the inexplicable decisions made by Japanese car makers lately and malaise about the seemingly endless litany of hybrid whatsits and FWD odd-number-of-door thingies.

Oh, I understand now. Yeah, I completely agree. My reading comprehension may have failed a bit given the context of the thread.

But while the econoboxes keep coming out, I am excited by efforts like the Twins. It gives me hope that if this segment thrives and expands, hopefully it will keep the Miata alive for a while, and hopefully Nissan and/or Honda will get in on the act. I'd love to see a new Silvia. I think pretty much everyone in this thread would agree. Something to directly compete with the twins.

[MVJ1975]

I'm hoping they inspire a new RWD sports car revival too. There's an off-chance we might see a new Silvia, given Nissan's willingness to make sports cars, but I have little hope in Honda. They're going off the deep end into eco-hell at full speed. Unless sales of the 86 and any new Silvia are fantastic, I can't see it forcing the beancounters hands past maybe dropping the Si engine in the CR-Z.

[tnt]

it's ugly