General question: how do you justify installing parts that may not be reversible? - Page 2 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

new2subaru · 08-09-2019, 04:54 PM

I don’t worry about it. I may not have it forever but will have it at least another 4 years and by then it won’t have much value anyways.

strat61caster · 08-09-2019, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mistople

An oil cooler is easily reversible in a handful of hours.

Chopping up your hood for some vents or doing a K swap is a very different conversation

Pretty sure a hood swap is less than an hour, cut up an eBay/second hand hood and keep your oe one for the swap back to avoid having to respray.

finch1750 · 08-09-2019, 07:07 PM

1. you'll lose money

2. basically everything is reversible beyond widebody (get spare hood and trunk for vents or wings)

NoHaveMSG · 08-09-2019, 07:10 PM

I tend to either put it into the wall, or die before I sell it so

It's a toy, I treat it as such.

soundman98 · 08-09-2019, 09:12 PM

"how do you justify getting married?"

"how do you justify getting a tattoo?"

"how do you justify having children in this messed up world?"

"how do you justify investing into a business that has little chance?"

"how do you justify..."

there's a million of these. we all justify those things on our own screwed up reasoning. it's why there's so many options for everything in the first place.

Evan55 · 08-09-2019, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ZDan

IMO, for many of us doing HPDEs the risks associated with running an oil cooler may outweigh the risks of NOT running one...

So much this! Way too many stories of leaking lines and fittings.

Also, since you have a 2018, installing an oil cooler will kiss your engine warranty goodbye.

Evan55 · 08-09-2019, 11:11 PM

Back to the topic:

Cars and track days are a hobby. They are investments in your happiness, not your retirement account.
And dont forget that ALL cars are depreciating assets that eventually go to 0.

Clutch Dog · 08-09-2019, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by finch1750

1. you'll lose money

2. basically everything is reversible beyond widebody (get spare hood and trunk for vents or wings)

Even then new hood. Bam reversed.

My roomate asked me this he got a 2018 fiat 124 and I cut holes in my hood for the vents and he's like aren't you worried about resale.

No son. I do this cause I love it. If I was concerned about resale I'd throw a sway bar in the back and not touch anything else. And that's just not fun

soundman98 · 08-09-2019, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Evan55

Back to the topic:

Cars and track days are a hobby. They are investments in your happiness, not your retirement account.
And dont forget that ALL cars are depreciating assets that eventually go to 0.

I don't feel that's true at all. Even a non-running hunk that used to resemble a car is worth at least $150 at most scrap yards, with junk car places offering even more in some areas.

DarkSunrise · 08-10-2019, 01:25 AM

The most common track mods are reversible. So far I've done wheels, tires, tune, full exhaust (now reverted back to CBE), BBK, oil cooler, diff mount inserts, and coilovers. Probably forgetting a few but nothing crazy and all of those can be reversed. Looking at hood vents next and that can be swapped back.

I'm not sure what track mods would be irreversible. I guess some major body/aero work, welded in roll cage, and/or engine swap. I never intended to go that extreme with this car, but the longer I keep tracking with it, the less it's worth and less crazy those ideas seem. Who knows, maybe someday...

mistople · 08-10-2019, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strat61caster

Pretty sure a hood swap is less than an hour, cut up an eBay/second hand hood and keep your oe one for the swap back to avoid having to respray.

I said K swap. As in engine swap!

strat61caster · 08-10-2019, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mistople

I said K swap. As in engine swap!

I wasn't going to argue that was easily reversible, only cutting up the hood, too lazy to crop your quote on mobile.

mistople · 08-10-2019, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strat61caster

I wasn't going to argue that was easily reversible, only cutting up the hood, too lazy to crop your quote on mobile.

Ahh ok. Sorry. I misunderstood as well. Hadn't had coffee yet

I should look for a hood in CWP to cut up..hmm..

EAGLE5 · 08-10-2019, 01:57 PM

How do I justify it?

"Honey, I REALLY REALLY NEED THIS RIGHT NOW!"

"I got it for cheap used. I swear!"

"I don't know what you're talking about. The huge wing was always there."

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DarkSunrise Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 22 BRZ (Previously 13 FR-S) Location: USA Posts: 5,798 Thanks: 2,187 Thanked 4,243 Times in 2,221 Posts Mentioned: 48 Post(s)	The most common track mods are reversible. So far I've done wheels, tires, tune, full exhaust (now reverted back to CBE), BBK, oil cooler, diff mount inserts, and coilovers. Probably forgetting a few but nothing crazy and all of those can be reversed. Looking at hood vents next and that can be swapped back. I'm not sure what track mods would be irreversible. I guess some major body/aero work, welded in roll cage, and/or engine swap. I never intended to go that extreme with this car, but the longer I keep tracking with it, the less it's worth and less crazy those ideas seem. Who knows, maybe someday... __________________ "Never run out of real estate, traction, and ideas at the same time." 2022 BRZ Build 2013 FR-S Build

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