Car wont start, battery tested normal ?? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Blackedout86 · 03-14-2019, 07:36 AM

hello, can someone please guide me what to do with my car, it was running normally 2 days ago, but today it suddenly won't start, no crank at all. the battery is tested to be normal by a mechanic(i just forgot to remember the voltage number ,etc), already tried to jumpstart, and still no crank at all.

now i've read in the other threads about solenoid starter gone bad, but i think that my car's symptoms don't fit.

1st try : all indicator lights, windows, headlights, doorlocks, are normal. car wont start with no crank at all, and i heard 2 clicks when trying to start the car.

2nd try : pushed the start button once, and then on the accessory mode, all the indicator lights flicker. i immediately turn the car off.

3rd try : car wont even go to accessory mode,pushing start button does nothing, windows does not close when the door is closed too.

Now i've experienced similar symptom of 2nd try in my Ford Ecosport, but that was simply the battery died. But on this one, the battery is 8 months old and it was normal when tested, i also cleaned the wirings too. Please also note that im from a country where ft86 is quite rare, so i have trouble finding a workshop that knows this car well. i would really like to try to fix this myself first.

2012 FT86 Automatic with 50k km
my car mods are : full exhausts, Dastek Unichip (6 months old with no issue), and recently put a window screen film but did not open the door panel.

please, any help would be appreciated.

BRZnut · 03-14-2019, 08:12 AM

could it be the fob battery? Try to start it with holding the fob right up against the start button and see what happens.

Blackedout86 · 03-14-2019, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRZnut

could it be the fob battery? Try to start it with holding the fob right up against the start button and see what happens.

i frequently change the key battery, and i tried that too, still doesnt work.

qcbaker · 03-14-2019, 10:49 AM

When you had the battery tested, did the mechanic just test the voltage at rest or did they perform a load test? Sometimes batteries can test okay at rest but voltage drops when load is applied. I wouldn't completely rule out the battery being the issue until you have it load tested.

Starter would be my next guess if the battery actually is fine though.

chipmunk · 03-14-2019, 12:13 PM

Clutch sensor or brake sensor, perhaps? My car won't start unless I press the clutch in.

tomm.brz · 03-14-2019, 12:23 PM

+1 for. clutch switch damaged... happened to many people

N234 · 03-14-2019, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chipmunk

Clutch sensor or brake sensor, perhaps? My car won't start unless I press the clutch in.

It would not flicker.

Since this car flickers and clicks, I'd say battery dead or starter seized

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Leonardo · 03-14-2019, 01:54 PM

Check the fuses too. I had the 7.5amp "Stop" fuse blow, and the car wouldn't start.

Also, I just realized I have never changed my fob battery. Same battery from 2012.

EDIT: If a battery is really dead, you may need 2 sets of jumper cables to get the car to start. (especially if you have cheaper ones with small gauge wire)

HappyRobot · 03-14-2019, 01:54 PM

Have you tried jump starting the car? I had a battery issue where the accessories worked, but the starter would not engage. The car started when we jump started it and ended up being a faulty battery.

chipmunk · 03-14-2019, 02:50 PM

Do you happen to have any insurance OBD plug-in device that monitors driving habits?
I had a Progressive Snapshot that drained the battery overnight. A few years ago Progressive was sued for this drainage.

qcbaker · 03-14-2019, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chipmunk

Clutch sensor or brake sensor, perhaps? My car won't start unless I press the clutch in.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomm.brz

+1 for. clutch switch damaged... happened to many people

OP said his car is an automatic. No clutch switch to damage.

tomm.brz · 03-14-2019, 03:43 PM

Right, sorry if I didn t read well before comment. Maybe there is a similar swith on brakes then for the automatic?

guybo · 03-14-2019, 04:50 PM

Click click. Battery tested good.

Remove both battery cables and wire brush them. Same with terminals. Try to start again.

If it still doesn't start, have someone tap the starter with a hammer (lightly) as you push the start button. This is probably where the clicking is coming from. Your symptoms sound like a bad starter. If tapping the starter works, don't shut it off and drive to a mechanic

FRS13_ · 03-14-2019, 07:54 PM

Check the battery terminals for corrosion, happened to me. Spent $400 on a starter and new battery before I realized it...

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03-14-2019, 07:36 AM	#1
Blackedout86 Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Drives: 2012 Toyota FT-86 Location: Jakarta Posts: 25 Thanks: 7 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Car wont start, battery tested normal ?? hello, can someone please guide me what to do with my car, it was running normally 2 days ago, but today it suddenly won't start, no crank at all. the battery is tested to be normal by a mechanic(i just forgot to remember the voltage number ,etc), already tried to jumpstart, and still no crank at all. now i've read in the other threads about solenoid starter gone bad, but i think that my car's symptoms don't fit. 1st try : all indicator lights, windows, headlights, doorlocks, are normal. car wont start with no crank at all, and i heard 2 clicks when trying to start the car. 2nd try : pushed the start button once, and then on the accessory mode, all the indicator lights flicker. i immediately turn the car off. 3rd try : car wont even go to accessory mode,pushing start button does nothing, windows does not close when the door is closed too. Now i've experienced similar symptom of 2nd try in my Ford Ecosport, but that was simply the battery died. But on this one, the battery is 8 months old and it was normal when tested, i also cleaned the wirings too. Please also note that im from a country where ft86 is quite rare, so i have trouble finding a workshop that knows this car well. i would really like to try to fix this myself first. 2012 FT86 Automatic with 50k km my car mods are : full exhausts, Dastek Unichip (6 months old with no issue), and recently put a window screen film but did not open the door panel. please, any help would be appreciated. Last edited by Blackedout86; 03-14-2019 at 08:12 AM.

03-14-2019, 01:54 PM	#8
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03-14-2019, 08:12 AM	#2
BRZnut Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: BRZ DGM Limited Location: USA Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 5 Thanked 431 Times in 250 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	could it be the fob battery? Try to start it with holding the fob right up against the start button and see what happens.

03-14-2019, 10:49 AM	#4
qcbaker Shitpost Generator v8.6 Join Date: Jun 2018 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 359 Thanks: 216 Thanked 416 Times in 211 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	When you had the battery tested, did the mechanic just test the voltage at rest or did they perform a load test? Sometimes batteries can test okay at rest but voltage drops when load is applied. I wouldn't completely rule out the battery being the issue until you have it load tested. Starter would be my next guess if the battery actually is fine though.

03-14-2019, 12:13 PM	#5
chipmunk Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Drives: _ Location: _ Posts: 440 Thanks: 50 Thanked 178 Times in 104 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Clutch sensor or brake sensor, perhaps? My car won't start unless I press the clutch in.

03-14-2019, 12:23 PM	#6
tomm.brz Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Drives: brz 2017 hksv2 Location: italy Posts: 2,280 Thanks: 515 Thanked 1,121 Times in 811 Posts Mentioned: 70 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	+1 for. clutch switch damaged... happened to many people

03-14-2019, 01:54 PM	#9
HappyRobot Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Drives: '13 Scion FR-S Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Have you tried jump starting the car? I had a battery issue where the accessories worked, but the starter would not engage. The car started when we jump started it and ended up being a faulty battery.

03-14-2019, 02:50 PM	#10
chipmunk Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Drives: _ Location: _ Posts: 440 Thanks: 50 Thanked 178 Times in 104 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Do you happen to have any insurance OBD plug-in device that monitors driving habits? I had a Progressive Snapshot that drained the battery overnight. A few years ago Progressive was sued for this drainage.

03-14-2019, 03:43 PM	#12
tomm.brz Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Drives: brz 2017 hksv2 Location: italy Posts: 2,280 Thanks: 515 Thanked 1,121 Times in 811 Posts Mentioned: 70 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Right, sorry if I didn t read well before comment. Maybe there is a similar swith on brakes then for the automatic?

03-14-2019, 04:50 PM	#13
guybo Huge E85 fan! Join Date: May 2016 Drives: 2016 Scion FRS Location: Tampa, FL, USA Posts: 1,850 Thanks: 539 Thanked 1,010 Times in 605 Posts Mentioned: 32 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Click click. Battery tested good. Remove both battery cables and wire brush them. Same with terminals. Try to start again. If it still doesn't start, have someone tap the starter with a hammer (lightly) as you push the start button. This is probably where the clicking is coming from. Your symptoms sound like a bad starter. If tapping the starter works, don't shut it off and drive to a mechanic

03-14-2019, 07:54 PM	#14
FRS13_ Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Drives: 2013 Scion FRS 6-speed Location: Rockwall, TX Posts: 157 Thanks: 97 Thanked 74 Times in 48 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Check the battery terminals for corrosion, happened to me. Spent $400 on a starter and new battery before I realized it... Sent from my SM-G892A using Tapatalk

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