valve spring issue?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

lol... Doh!


I wonder if that clutch dust doesn't exacerbate the wear between the quill and bushing. Mixes with the grease and makes a gritty mess. I hate the design but both Toyota and Subaru seem to be ok with it.

My guess is yes. Yes it does.

[maslin]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

My guess is yes. Yes it does.

Nasty. Good argument for a hydraulic throw out bearing.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

lol... Doh!


I wonder if that clutch dust doesn't exacerbate the wear between the quill and bushing. Mixes with the grease and makes a gritty mess. I hate the design but both Toyota and Subaru seem to be ok with it.

Nooooooooooooo!

Bubba tells me that the powder off of the clutch disk acts as a lubricant just like graphite would.

There ya have it!


humfrz for Bubba

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by maslin

Nasty. Good argument for a hydraulic throw out bearing.

I say we should go back to brass bushings -


humfrz

[bcj]

Brass bushings and pig lard. The way forward.

And bacon in the mean time.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by bcj

Brass bushings and pig lard. The way forward.

And bacon in the mean time.

Fer sure, fer sure.

For the young-ens:

Early axle grease was Tallow, made from animal fat rendered from Beef or Mutton. At room temperature, Tallow remains as a solid substance that could be stored for long periods of time. Due to not having refrigeration to prevent decomposing, tallow was stored in various air tight containers to prevent oxidation.

The wheel-grease containers were among the tools most wagons needed for simple maintenance. Before axle grease came in a tin can, it was often kept in ox-horn containers or a carved out log with a lid as shown left. Looped together with a chain or rope the grease container could then be carried over the rear axle during transit. Carved logs and wooden buckets would be made with an lid having a small hole which allowed to carry a mop like brush used to apply the grease. Later containers would be iron or steel, eventually being supplied in sealed tins.

For early pioneers, grease lubrication was kept at a minimum because of its short supply, but history also records that in emergencies, fatback - today's bacon - was sliced and wrapped around wheel spindles as a lubricant. A true grease consist of an oil along with a thickening agent that during the 1800's was typically soap. Grease was first used during ancient Egypt mixing lime with olive oils. Europe later would use black slugs to make axle grease on wagons and carts. Pine Tar sometimes added for it's preservative properties, although until refining petroleum in the 20th century, Tallow remain the prime lubricate for axles.

Yep, it's another slow day in Puyallup -


humfrz

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by humfrz

.. fatback - today's bacon ...

Hey now, let's not lead the youngun's astray. All bacon is fatback but not all fatback is bacon.

Bacon is processed fatback. Fatback is still available and is used for many a fine food.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Hey now, let's not lead the youngun's astray. All bacon is fatback but not all fatback is bacon.

Bacon is processed fatback. Fatback is still available and is used for many a fine food.

@humfrz, you really need to crosscheck your sources. SMH

http://cowboyandchuckwagoncooking.bl...huckwagon.html

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

@humfrz, you really need to crosscheck your sources. SMH

http://cowboyandchuckwagoncooking.bl...huckwagon.html

Yep, that's what I used for a reference (I guess I should have put it in quotes) - my bad.

I also found this on the same web page -


humfrz

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Hey now, let's not lead the youngun's astray. All bacon is fatback but not all fatback is bacon.

Bacon is processed fatback. Fatback is still available and is used for many a fine food.

Noted.

Hell, I ain't gonna debate pig meat with an old timer from Georgia -


humfrz

[Youngmanhenry]

do they replace the throw out bearing for f r e e ?

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[ermax]

Originally Posted by Youngmanhenry

do they replace the throw out bearing for f r e e ?

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I doubt it would be free considering the clutch doesn’t come off for this job. I suspect you could get a large discount considering they have the engine out for this job though.

Edit: as WNDSRFR points out, I'm an idiot. The TOB sits on the input shaft of the trany and is free when the engine is out. To replace it you would still need to clean up the old grease and reapply but it's a really quick job. I suspect they would still charge about 30mins labor for it but would probably only take 15mins to do the job.

[MuseChaser]

Just got my car back from my Toyota dealership yesterday after having the recall addressed. So far, so good. Oil changed, coolant changed, service manager said throwout bearing looked fine, they finally cleaned up most of the grime/mess made by the leaking timing cover they addressed months ago. Could be my imagination, but I seem to be getting a bit more heat in the cockpit than I was previously, which is a very good thing. Any explanation? Can't imagine why they'd touch the thermostat, and I know they didn't do a coolant flush... just drain and refill.. I asked.



Anyway, no issues so far, about 40 miles after the recall fix.

[WNDSRFR]

Originally Posted by ermax

I doubt it would be free considering the clutch doesn’t come off for this job. I suspect you could get a large discount considering they have the engine out for this job though.

If I remember right, the clutch doesn't have to be removed to change the TOB. If the engine is removed from the transmission it takes about 30 seconds to change the TOB.
And yes my TOB is being replaced for free.