how likely is it that we will see any of these on the 2014 model frs?

[SFTiofoso]

I want nav as an option and maybe some new dash material.

[Lonewolf]

Originally Posted by pr086

push button start

HID headlights

small increase to horse power

flattening out of the torque dip in the power band.

lighter curb weight

do you think any or all of these will be a possibility for the 2014 model? i know i saw a post on here about an improved intake system for the next model, so it's got me thinking. i plan on at least waiting till the 2014's are anounced before i buy.

Push button start: Release series based upon what they did with the Tc

HID headlights: Sadly, I don't think this will make it as an option until the MMC (mid model change) or maybe a release series, but we'll see.

Increase in horsepower: Not going to happen in 2014. Small chance in the MMC.

Torque dip issue: They might do something to address this for next year, but I would also expect a MMC here.

Lighter curb weight: Not going to happen.

[Saber_TRD]

Originally Posted by Memphis

The Release Series = PBS (Peanut Butter Sandwich), Body Kit, Lowering Springs, Maybe Sway Bars? Seem reasonable?

As far as what will be available next year, I believe there is an accessory sheet listing when things are supposed to come out for the car.

I would like an option for HID's and since Scion is such a customizable brand I wish they would do like they did with the 1st gen XB and offer different tail light options. Red tails anyone?

"customizable" brand, HA! I'm fighting with my local dealer to get Toyota parts for an FR-S let alone anything after market to count as customizable. Not to mention a single trim level with no options? Customizable lol They don't know the meaning of the word.

Originally Posted by .Alex

Add steering controls to the list. Unacceptable for a $25k car not to have them

They left them out on purpose, to keep it closer to a purist driver's car. It was said in an interview a long while back.

Originally Posted by BoostinIX

The lack of ANY features available even as an after-purchase is what's kept me from getting one and what's steering me towards the BRZ. I get it, you want us to make it our own. Well...give us the parts to without importing from Japan dammit! :P

With ya there, only I'm not going the BRZ route.

Originally Posted by KevinDuMa

I highly doubt any of these features will be added on, especially if the BRZ will stick around. There has to be some difference between the two cars, I see it set up as Fr-S is base, BRZ premium is a higher trim, and BRZ limited is the highest trim. Also it took 7 release series to put the little push start to the tC. The new R.S 8 tC does not have it but instead has paddle shifters on the automatic so for R.S Fr-S you can probably bet on a different 5axis kit and some random color scheme, my guess is yellow or some blue with suspension and a shift knob and whatever other little tid bits they usually do.

Then how do you explain the Toyota 86 everywhere else in the world? It's only North America that's getting stuck with the Scion base model only (Scion does not exist outside of N.A.). The GT 86 Limited is actually better equipped than the BRZ Limited from what I've heard. Everywhere else, the Toyota fills all ranges as does the BRZ, only N.A. is getting the shaft, which is

[TOYSTRY]

Originally Posted by Nepenthe

a couple new colors -- probably!

RS Series hopefully - that's what I'm waiting for. If it doesn't come in 2014 then I'll decide on Subaru or Scion at that point.

[Memphis]

[QUOTE=Saber_TRD;309700]"customizable" brand, HA! I'm fighting with my local dealer to get Toyota parts for an FR-S let alone anything after market to count as customizable. Not to mention a single trim level with no options? Customizable lol They don't know the meaning of the word.

Its a new car.... what do you expect? There probably is not a lot of in stock parts for this car yet and I wouldnt expect there to be for at least a couple of more months.

[KevinDuMa]

Originally Posted by Saber_TRD

Then how do you explain the Toyota 86 everywhere else in the world? It's only North America that's getting stuck with the Scion base model only (Scion does not exist outside of N.A.). The GT 86 Limited is actually better equipped than the BRZ Limited from what I've heard. Everywhere else, the Toyota fills all ranges as does the BRZ, only N.A. is getting the shaft, which is

That's the thing, here in NA we got the car as a Scion which is a mono-spec brand, if it were branded as a Toyota here I'm sure it would have gotten different trim levels as well. The Toyota 86 GTS is almost the exact equivalent to the BRZ limited here with respect to Subaru and Toyota interior and exterior differences. The Scion Fr-S has a little bit more standard equipment, otherwise its almost equivalent to the 86 GT model.
http://www.toyota.com.au/86/range?WT..._RangeandSpecs

[Saber_TRD]

Originally Posted by KevinDuMa

That's the thing, here in NA we got the car as a Scion which is a mono-spec brand, if it were branded as a Toyota here I'm sure it would have gotten different trim levels as well. The Toyota 86 GTS is almost the exact equivalent to the BRZ limited here with respect to Subaru and Toyota interior and exterior differences. The Scion Fr-S has a little bit more standard equipment, otherwise its almost equivalent to the 86 GT model.
http://www.toyota.com.au/86/range?WT..._RangeandSpecs

That's the AUS spec, that site also lacks description and images of the AUS 86 GT to accurately compare. The Scion actually has more in common with the G 86 from Japan, with a few options. Someone on this site said about 80% G 86, 20% GT 86, I'd agree with that assessment.

G 86: http://toyota.jp/86/001_p_001/grade/grade3/index.html
GT 86: http://toyota.jp/86/001_p_001/grade/grade2/index.html

My main complaint here is that we, in N.A., are not being given the option of going with the higher spec. We're getting screwed thanks to Scion.

[KevinDuMa]

Originally Posted by Saber_TRD

That's the AUS spec, that site also lacks description and images of the AUS 86 GT to accurately compare. The Scion actually has more in common with the G 86 from Japan, with a few options. Someone on this site said about 80% G 86, 20% GT 86, I'd agree with that assessment.

G 86: http://toyota.jp/86/001_p_001/grade/grade3/index.html
GT 86: http://toyota.jp/86/001_p_001/grade/grade2/index.html

My main complaint here is that we, in N.A., are not being given the option of going with the higher spec. We're getting screwed thanks to Scion.

Gotcha. And yes I agree that's why I got a BRZ

[imravenit]

Originally Posted by Exhaust

I was going to start a post like this, I can easily see them adding JDM headlights to the USDM market as an option/upgrade just to squeeze that much more money out of the car. It would be very wise if you asked me.

There making more money actually this way people are buying jdm parts here in united states..

[Saber_TRD]

Originally Posted by KevinDuMa

Gotcha. And yes I agree that's why I got a BRZ

Technically the BRZ is getting screwed over here too, not as bad as the Scion, but missing out on some things. The Limited is very, very close though. I won't be touching it though, my brand loyalty and the only Subaru dealership in a 2 hour driving radius has more fraud charges than a rechargeable battery.

Originally Posted by imravenit

There making more money actually this way people are buying jdm parts here in united states..

Although I know that is true, as I've seen the posts, I still find it hard to believe. I've been fighting with my dealership for a month just to get part numbers and prices. I did all the work of finding out what parts I need, they just have to give me the numbers and they can't even do that or at least haven't been able to yet.

[imravenit]

Originally Posted by Saber_TRD

Although I know that is true, as I've seen the posts, I still find it hard to believe. I've been fighting with my dealership for a month just to get part numbers and prices. I did all the work of finding out what parts I need, they just have to give me the numbers and they can't even do that or at least haven't been able to yet.

Hope you can work something out..

[_hollywood]

All these threads about " should i wait for the 2014 2018 2024 fr-s "just means this guy will never actually buy one....the fr-s is here now, in a world of cookie cutter cars this one stands out, just buy it now instead of waiting for a " better" model. Cmon already

Look what happened to the wrx guys..the 2013 looks like a kia 4 door.....so just keep waiting and waiting man thats a good idea, im gonna go do a couple burnouts in mine while you are " waiting" for some factory hids and push start...

[Saber_TRD]

Originally Posted by _hollywood

All these threads about " should i wait for the 2014 2018 2024 fr-s "just means this guy will never actually buy one....the fr-s is here now, in a world of cookie cutter cars this one stands out, just buy it now instead of waiting for a " better" model. Cmon already

Look what happened to the wrx guys..the 2013 looks like a kia 4 door.....so just keep waiting and waiting man thats a good idea, im gonna go do a couple burnouts in mine while you are " waiting" for some factory hids and push start...

Burnout? In this car? hahahaha, Jay Leno[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUIo_UMcrVE"][/ame] couldn't even get this car to do a burn out ([ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUIo_UMcrVE"]Jay Leno's Garage: 2013 Scion FR-S- YouTube[/ame] Check out the 13min mark for the attempt) Please stop kidding yourself, this is not a muscle car.

If you're happy accepting a sub-par vehicle, go ahead. I for one will wait till I see something that matches up to Toyota quality of the day, not something that matches up to my 10 year old Toyota. Don't get me wrong, it's a great car however, in Scion form it's lacking.

[BoostinIX]

Let's be realistic here. Scion isn't exactly doing that well these days. Bringing it here as a Toyota would have been a maaajor blow to Scion. Trying to keep the brand going.