least grippy tires for drifting?

[Slammillionaire]

Make sure you get a $400 drift alternator

[churchx]

And great way to have fun. To different people different tastes, so i don't see the point of belittling drifting in general. OP never claimed that he intend to race someone fast-lapping with him drifting.

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by QTR FMS

lol i dont know how to check grange schedule most of the times the events are private or canceled.

and willow spring feels boring on low hp car.

is there any other tracks that i dont know about? i know they did event at San Diego last month.

whats boring is not having enough runoff and watching people drive while your car is being towed away. if you want small, streets is about as small a real track i know of. if you want fun, buttonwillow and especially chuckwalla get the job done imo.

[x808drifter]

The fact that he says hes "good" and then called it "monjing" makes me question that statement a little.

Not knowing that he'd have to go to a 45 series with a 195 to keep the gearing same-ish also makes me wonder.

"More sliding than drifting"
LOLWUT???




Get some cheap all seasons.
Over-inflate them.

Enjoy.

I really hope your turning TC off...

[QTR FMS]

Originally Posted by mav1178

If you're actually at the level where you can claim you are good at drifting, you'll soon realize that you need to have decent grip front/rear to enhance your car control capabilities, which defeats the point of this thread.

So how good are you?

i understand what you are saying and i agree with but more grip require more power and im trying to avoid going to f/i on my daily driver ,my project car already have way better setup ,im just trying to have more fun with this car for now

i have r-compound tire in front and pbm angle kit so in term of front grip i have no issues with it,and the rear tires barely make any smoke the car setup is perfect right now.

[QTR FMS]

Originally Posted by Slammillionaire

Make sure you get a $400 drift alternator

what do you mean by drift alternator ? higher draw or underdrive?

and yeah im basicly asking what is the hardest compound i could find thats what im asking here for recommendation.

[QTR FMS]

Originally Posted by LudwigMiles

Drifting is a great way to drive slow.

true but not when there is not enough wheel spin

[QTR FMS]

Originally Posted by x808drifter

The fact that he says hes "good" and then called it "monjing" makes me question that statement a little.

Not knowing that he'd have to go to a 45 series with a 195 to keep the gearing same-ish also makes me wonder.

"More sliding than drifting"
LOLWUT???




Get some cheap all seasons.
Over-inflate them.

Enjoy.

I really hope your turning TC off...

imao in the track i go to there is a straight a way that you have to monji to link the whole track but you are not allowed to because if you hit the fence you have to pay 3000$ and then im gonna destroy my daily.

even though i know how to monji i try to avoid it on my daily and i havent asked what do you call monjing ?thats the term i always hear do you have a different term?

i know that going up a ratio makes the gear taller but im not sure how much harder its gonna be to spin the wheel the reason i picked ratio 40 in the first place is to be in the higher rpm range to keep the car from bugging down.

yes my rear tire have 60-70 psi always and still not enough for me taste of driving.

i have a few short videos of my drifting and you will understand what i mean when i say im sliding not drifting there is not enough angle not enough torque not enough smoke and yes i know that im not gonna have all that with 200hp car.

hmm let me double check if my traction is offyep the abs fuse is pulled and the pedal dance mode is on

[QTR FMS]

good can mean alot of things when i say im good i mean im decent i can link the whole track and maintain correct drift line and monji.

but im no where near proam level and that i know how to tandem but im at the point where i can start to learn to tandem but im not gonna learn to tandem on this car so there is no need to have grippy rear tires to catch up with the lead car because there will be no lead car.

im just trying to make drifting more fun in this car and challenging, honestly at this point it feels like a video game to me doing the same thing over and over.

[QTR FMS]

Originally Posted by fatoni

whats boring is not having enough runoff and watching people drive while your car is being towed away. if you want small, streets is about as small a real track i know of. if you want fun, buttonwillow and especially chuckwalla get the job done imo.

i think some of those track require rollcage and 5 point harness and the other we cant drift those not sure, i know we can only drift at 3 tracks in willowspring .

so far i have had no issue drifting other than tire wear and ebrake stretching and misfiring at the track my car been so reliable, hopefully my project car can be just as reliable.

[QTR FMS]

Originally Posted by churchx

QTR_FMS: imho that's the beauty of dual calipers - you don't have to touch/connect to stock brakes/their lines to add hydro brake, even stock parking brake can be left as is, so by that imho nothing will be changed daily driving reliability/capability wise. Just mount another set of stock calipers on rear wheels with something like this.

thanks for the link right now what is stopping me is ebrake mounting i dont know if there is a bolt on solution instead of welding and the other thing having to cut or remove interior.

thanks again.

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by QTR FMS

i have r-compound tire in front and pbm angle kit so in term of front grip i have no issues with it,and the rear tires barely make any smoke the car setup is perfect right now.

That's your problem right there.

Sorry, you're not good at drifting if you need R-comps in the front.

[OND]

Originally Posted by QTR FMS

yes my rear tire have 60-70 psi always and still not enough for me taste of driving.

That's weird. A nice stretch and high rear pressures should be plenty enough to slide this car around on tight tracks. I dont think you can avoid clutch kicking though, it is the only way to keep the long slides going with 200hp.

You should post a vid so that your issue becomes much clearer (get ready to be flamed for lack of skills though)

[TylerLieberman]

1: Manji, not monji

2: Nankang, nexen, federal, achilles, etc all have tires that are sufficient. If you're having problems spinning the tires, up tire pressure, alter suspension/alignment, be more aggressive, etc.

3: There's zero reason to run R comps up front on this car. If anything, that's having more of a negative impact than a positive one.

4: Don't understand what's being said between sliding vs drifting. Your statements don't really make any sense.

5: You have PBM knuckles with R comps up front and 60psi stock sized tires in the rear on stock power. If you can't see the issue with this setup, then there are bigger issues to address.

6: You seem to not understand the concept between grip and traction. The fact you think that you don't really need any rear end grip because you're not running tandem is misguided.

7: I don't know what it means for an ebrake to "misfire". Please explain. Furthermore, if you're running 60psi in stock like rear tires, there's zero reason to run a hydraulic handbrake. Don't believe everything TJ Hunt tells you.

8: Having ABS fuse pulled and doing the pedal dance is redundant. If you pull the fuse, everything, including ABS is deactivated. If you do that and are doing the pedal dance afterwards, you're just making it look like you have tourettes in the car doing motions that are literally doing nothing.

9: Post videos of you driving, including in car. Also include suspension/alignment and wheel/tire setup. I can probably help direct your attention on what's causing issues.

10: Based on what I'm reading, a lot of these issues just sound like setup and driver error.

EDIT: I looked at your first post and saw that you're running UEL headers and E85. There's zero issue as to why you should be having so much of an issue. I had no problems with 4th gear initiations on stock power. When I added EL headers (I stayed on 91 octane) it became even easier. Something isn't adding up.