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QTR FMS 08-27-2017 11:58 PM

least grippy tires for drifting?
 
hi guys,

im drifting in a small go kart track so it really low speed track and its hard to keep the wheel spinning as much as i want im more sliding than drifting doing my best to carry the most speed i can get so im not using lots of angle.

the stock tire is really grippy to drift and expensive with.

i tried NANKANG ns-20 205/40r17 its alot better but still not as slippery as i want it smokes and spin but it still grips up unless i keep pulling ebrake and clutch kick.

i tried ACHILLES ATR-K ECONOMIST195/40r17 it doesn't last as long i think its chucks way before running out of threads and it makes the gear ratio way to short.

by the way im using e85 and uel headers.
thanks.

Kronos 08-28-2017 12:09 AM

https://youtu.be/HPh90yNX-mY

You are welcome ;)

QTR FMS 08-28-2017 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Kronos (Post 2969223)
https://youtu.be/HPh90yNX-mY

You are welcome ;)

i actually was thinking of trying it lmao it would be fun :bonk:, but no seriously i want something i could find in onlinetires.com.

thanks

churchx 08-28-2017 01:07 AM

Maybe try also lowering wheel size to R16, as there are even narrower tires available for those, and play a bit with alignment, if that's what you adjust car for, especially if on NA power.
Imho it shouldn't matter much which specific tire model/brand. Rather lot of seat time .. which would mean lot of tires burned .. due what "best" choice would be cheapest tires of whatever type. Local pro drifters for training often using multiple sets of used tires from some tire shop, just changing out when yet again another one pops after few laps around.

fatoni 08-28-2017 01:20 AM

Steer clear of Adam's

QTR FMS 08-28-2017 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by fatoni (Post 2969238)
Steer clear of Adam's

lol i dont know how to check grange schedule most of the times the events are private or canceled.

and willow spring feels boring on low hp car.

is there any other tracks that i dont know about? i know they did event at San Diego last month.

QTR FMS 08-28-2017 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by churchx (Post 2969236)
Maybe try also lowering wheel size to R16, as there are even narrower tires available for those, and play a bit with alignment, if that's what you adjust car for, especially if on NA power.
Imho it shouldn't matter much which specific tire model/brand. Rather lot of seat time .. which would mean lot of tires burned .. due what "best" choice would be cheapest tires of whatever type. Local pro drifters for training often using multiple sets of used tires from some tire shop, just changing out when yet again another one pops after few laps around.

the best part of drifting frs that the tire last three drift events at adam's or more than an hour drifting straight.

the tires cost from 45-60 so its not a big deal to get new tires.

but yeah going a size smaller is not a bad idea im gonna try it.

thanks

churchx 08-28-2017 03:55 AM

I've seen cases of tire popped in less then 10 minutes. I have seen case of wheel studs broken in 2nd minute. If drifting is your thing, it's always worth to carry set or two of extra wheels with premounted tires and good jack to speedup remounting. Tires are wearable, of very short life at that for this specific usage type. It's not so much if tire will wear down or blow up, but when. Also worth using cheap wheels that you don't care much. Imho you don't want to drive half a track with blown tire to place where you'll put new wheel/rubber with some uber expensive bling forged wheels.
Unless you are really into drifting that much, imho it's simpler/much cheaper to get into HPDE with occasional drift out of some curvers for fun. With that your tires should last few track days (depending on frequency of which it may mean even half a season or season for you), not minutes/hour. Another way to save on tires for drifting is not to adjust car, but to adjust environment :), ice/snow track drifts also let save on wearables a lot.
P.S.
Except from more fitting for drift alignment you may think also of 2nd brake caliper bracket (and caliper itself) for rear brakes and hydraulic handbrake. I don't think stock standing brake will last long if drift-abused.

QTR FMS 08-28-2017 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by churchx (Post 2969256)
I've seen cases of tire popped in less then 10 minutes. I have seen case of wheel studs broken in 2nd minute. If drifting is your thing, it's always worth to carry set or two of extra wheels with premounted tires and good jack to speedup remounting. Tires are wearable, of very short life at that for this specific usage type. It's not so much if tire will wear down or blow up, but when. Also worth using cheap wheels that you don't care much. Imho you don't want to drive half a track with blown tire to place where you'll put new wheel/rubber with some uber expensive bling forged wheels.
Unless you are really into drifting that much, imho it's simpler/much cheaper to get into HPDE with occasional drift out of some curvers for fun. With that your tires should last few track days (depending on frequency of which it may mean even half a season or season for you), not minutes/hour. Another way to save on tires for drifting is not to adjust car, but to adjust environment :), ice/snow track drifts also let save on wearables a lot.

i always carry atleast 2 tires and floor jack , sometime even 6 tires it is funny watchinng people reaction when they see the tires in the backseats.

im using xxr wheels and stock wheel and funny thing my xxr wheel lasted more than tj hunt wheel did i was there the same day he broke his wheel and i did similar thing a couple of times and ddint break 100$ wheel (xxr).

im good at drifting i can link every corner except the straight line i avoid monjing and i always get complements and people ask me for a ride along so im past the point of using used tires and the stock tire and ns-20 last really long i dont even worry about the tire life and i actually want to make it shorter by having more wheel spin without going f/i

QTR FMS 08-28-2017 04:16 AM

im not gonna install a hydro cause this is my daily im waiting for my project car to be done.

and i want to progress before jumping to a car twice the power so even a little more wheel spin will help cause right now i drift with full throttle no lift until transitioning so i want to get used to throttle modulation more than on off switch.

churchx 08-28-2017 07:45 AM

QTR_FMS: imho that's the beauty of dual calipers - you don't have to touch/connect to stock brakes/their lines to add hydro brake, even stock parking brake can be left as is, so by that imho nothing will be changed daily driving reliability/capability wise. Just mount another set of stock calipers on rear wheels with something like this.

Slammillionaire 08-28-2017 08:19 AM

Just find the hardest compound tires you can

mav1178 08-28-2017 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by QTR FMS (Post 2969261)
im good at drifting

If you're actually at the level where you can claim you are good at drifting, you'll soon realize that you need to have decent grip front/rear to enhance your car control capabilities, which defeats the point of this thread.

So how good are you?

LudwigMiles 08-28-2017 09:32 AM

Drifting is a great way to drive slow.


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