Summer Performance Tire Recommendation - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

dattran86 · 03-17-2017, 11:43 AM

What is your recommendation for a Daily/Spirited Driving/Light Track Use tires? And if you could please give some feedback if possible.

Currently on my purchase list is:
Hancook Ventus V12 Evo 2
Firestone Indy 500

I'm aware that there is a new version of MPSS but its too pricey for me.

Clipdat · 03-17-2017, 12:58 PM

I would avoid the Firestone Indy 500, I wasn't happy with them at all, they seemed to have a very soft and squishy sidewall.

BigTuna · 03-17-2017, 01:14 PM

I love my Hankooks. They are great for daily driving. For autocross, I would be mad if I had something a with a little more grip, but its a really good multi-functional tire.

StraightOuttaCanadaEh · 03-17-2017, 01:21 PM

My tire guy swears by the MPSS, so I'll have them fitted soon. What is this new version of MPSS you're talking about?

Keenercarguy · 03-17-2017, 01:23 PM

The outgoing PSS is on sale and will be up until the PS4S replaces it. You'd spend about $100 more but you'd get at least that much more out of them performance wise. I like the Indy 500 more than the hankook's, I've run both on my rears. The Indy's have noticeably more grip, I do like running them 1-2psi high though, no more sidewall issues really and they're still grippier. Sidewall can always be compensated by pressure, and the hankook's also have a softer sidewall than the PSS', which are the king.
FYI Falken's new extreme performance summer tire (Azenis K+) is currently on rebate so you can get four really fast tires for about $340 right now, if outright speed is your game. The tire it replaced was a good performance tire overall for sure A lot cheaper than RE71R's, but even with Falken's new compound choice they'll probably still be a tad slower.

Keenercarguy · 03-17-2017, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanadaEh

My tire guy swears by the MPSS, so I'll have them fitted soon. What is this new version of MPSS you're talking about?

The new version is the Pilot Sport 4S, it's claiming to be faster, more efficient, and longer lasting than the PSS. They should be out in 17's within a few months .One of my best friends is a chemical engineer working on the project, Michelin is freaking crazy about quality control on them and they're apparently "dope".
Also you get the fancy velvet sidewall off of the Cup 2's so there's that too lol

BRZHarley · 03-17-2017, 01:32 PM

I really like my Rival S tires....

Clipdat · 03-17-2017, 01:34 PM

WHAT

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keenercarguy

Also you get the fancy velvet sidewall off of the Cup 2's so there's that too lol

cueball89 · 03-17-2017, 01:50 PM

Tirerack has reviewed both tires. They are in different performance categories though. I had the previous version of the hankook tires and didn't care for them... The firestones are supposedly very similar to bridgestone re003 tires found in Japan.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests...y.jsp?ttid=190

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests...y.jsp?ttid=217

StraightOuttaCanadaEh · 03-17-2017, 03:56 PM

what's a fancy velvet sidewall?

NLSP · 03-17-2017, 05:22 PM

Consider the new Continental ExtremeContact Sport that just came out recently. It's supposed to be pretty much identical to MPSS performance, but at a lower price and more comfortable. I'm replacing my MPSS' with them soon.

brandonblt2 · 03-17-2017, 05:30 PM

Sumitomo HTR Z III cheaper and alittle better in some aspects. I had them and they are great tires. https://www.tirerack.com/tires/Compa...rveyTires=true

dattran86 · 03-17-2017, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keenercarguy

The outgoing PSS is on sale and will be up until the PS4S replaces it. You'd spend about $100 more but you'd get at least that much more out of them performance wise. I like the Indy 500 more than the hankook's, I've run both on my rears. The Indy's have noticeably more grip, I do like running them 1-2psi high though, no more sidewall issues really and they're still grippier. Sidewall can always be compensated by pressure, and the hankook's also have a softer sidewall than the PSS', which are the king.
FYI Falken's new extreme performance summer tire (Azenis K+) is currently on rebate so you can get four really fast tires for about $340 right now, if outright speed is your game. The tire it replaced was a good performance tire overall for sure A lot cheaper than RE71R's, but even with Falken's new compound choice they'll probably still be a tad slower.

How is the tread wear on the indy 500?

Keenercarguy · 03-17-2017, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dattran86

How is the tread wear on the indy 500?

They last just about as long as super sports, maybe longer, issue is that I stagger PSS on the fronts and Indy 500's on the rears because they're less expensive so I don't feel so bad about burning them away every now and then

I'd estimate that if, properly rotated, they'd last a bit longer than the supersports but MPSS' are also known for longevity... And GRIPPPP. If you're looking for the the best tire the MPSS is your best bet, but if saving $100 and having a bit longer tire life is your game then the Indy 500's (or the hankook's) wouldn't be bad choices.
The rival s mentioned is a great tire, my friend runs it on his STX RX8, but they wear pretty fast (200tw AutoX all-out-speed tire) like the Falken's and Re71r's... So probably not a good choice unless you're interested in AutoX a lot, and spending a lot on tires lol.

03-17-2017, 11:43 AM	#1
dattran86 Driver Join Date: Aug 2016 Drives: 2013 Whiteout FRS Location: Toronto/GTA Posts: 539 Thanks: 427 Thanked 237 Times in 159 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Summer Performance Tire Recommendation What is your recommendation for a Daily/Spirited Driving/Light Track Use tires? And if you could please give some feedback if possible. Currently on my purchase list is: Hancook Ventus V12 Evo 2 Firestone Indy 500 I'm aware that there is a new version of MPSS but its too pricey for me.

03-17-2017, 01:14 PM	#3
BigTuna Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Drives: 2013 WRB BRZ Location: Ohio Posts: 672 Thanks: 258 Thanked 477 Times in 275 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I love my Hankooks. They are great for daily driving. For autocross, I would be mad if I had something a with a little more grip, but its a really good multi-functional tire. __________________ 2013 WRB "Build" Thread

03-17-2017, 01:23 PM	#5
Keenercarguy Mountain Runner Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited 6MT Location: Boone, NC and Charlotte area NC Posts: 714 Thanks: 489 Thanked 142 Times in 105 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	The outgoing PSS is on sale and will be up until the PS4S replaces it. You'd spend about $100 more but you'd get at least that much more out of them performance wise. I like the Indy 500 more than the hankook's, I've run both on my rears. The Indy's have noticeably more grip, I do like running them 1-2psi high though, no more sidewall issues really and they're still grippier. Sidewall can always be compensated by pressure, and the hankook's also have a softer sidewall than the PSS', which are the king. FYI Falken's new extreme performance summer tire (Azenis K+) is currently on rebate so you can get four really fast tires for about $340 right now, if outright speed is your game. The tire it replaced was a good performance tire overall for sure A lot cheaper than RE71R's, but even with Falken's new compound choice they'll probably still be a tad slower. __________________ 2013 BRZ 6MT Limited: "Quick as Hell, on a Budget" Build • Ceramic Coated Gruppe-S UEL/OP • Konig Hypergrams • RS4 200tw • Koni Yellows, Eibach Springs • Ferodo DS2500's Last edited by Keenercarguy; 03-17-2017 at 01:24 PM. Reason: Typographical errors, typing on a phone

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brandonblt2 The Stig's African Cousin Join Date: Apr 2014 Drives: 2014 wrb brz Location: NJ Posts: 720 Thanks: 1,547 Thanked 486 Times in 256 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Sumitomo HTR Z III cheaper and alittle better in some aspects. I had them and they are great tires. https://www.tirerack.com/tires/Compa...rveyTires=true __________________ Instagram: brandonblt2 Build Thread: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...86#post2219386 Flickr: brandonblt567

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