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dattran86 03-17-2017 11:43 AM

Summer Performance Tire Recommendation
 
What is your recommendation for a Daily/Spirited Driving/Light Track Use tires? And if you could please give some feedback if possible.

Currently on my purchase list is:
Hancook Ventus V12 Evo 2
Firestone Indy 500

I'm aware that there is a new version of MPSS but its too pricey for me.

Clipdat 03-17-2017 12:58 PM

I would avoid the Firestone Indy 500, I wasn't happy with them at all, they seemed to have a very soft and squishy sidewall.

BigTuna 03-17-2017 01:14 PM

I love my Hankooks. They are great for daily driving. For autocross, I would be mad if I had something a with a little more grip, but its a really good multi-functional tire.

StraightOuttaCanadaEh 03-17-2017 01:21 PM

My tire guy swears by the MPSS, so I'll have them fitted soon. What is this new version of MPSS you're talking about?

Keenercarguy 03-17-2017 01:23 PM

The outgoing PSS is on sale and will be up until the PS4S replaces it. You'd spend about $100 more but you'd get at least that much more out of them performance wise. I like the Indy 500 more than the hankook's, I've run both on my rears. The Indy's have noticeably more grip, I do like running them 1-2psi high though, no more sidewall issues really and they're still grippier. Sidewall can always be compensated by pressure, and the hankook's also have a softer sidewall than the PSS', which are the king.
FYI Falken's new extreme performance summer tire (Azenis K+) is currently on rebate so you can get four really fast tires for about $340 right now, if outright speed is your game. The tire it replaced was a good performance tire overall for sure A lot cheaper than RE71R's, but even with Falken's new compound choice they'll probably still be a tad slower.

Keenercarguy 03-17-2017 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanadaEh (Post 2874144)
My tire guy swears by the MPSS, so I'll have them fitted soon. What is this new version of MPSS you're talking about?

The new version is the Pilot Sport 4S, it's claiming to be faster, more efficient, and longer lasting than the PSS. They should be out in 17's within a few months .One of my best friends is a chemical engineer working on the project, Michelin is freaking crazy about quality control on them and they're apparently "dope".
Also you get the fancy velvet sidewall off of the Cup 2's so there's that too lol

BRZHarley 03-17-2017 01:32 PM

I really like my Rival S tires....

Clipdat 03-17-2017 01:34 PM

WHAT

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Originally Posted by Keenercarguy (Post 2874150)
Also you get the fancy velvet sidewall off of the Cup 2's so there's that too lol


cueball89 03-17-2017 01:50 PM

Tirerack has reviewed both tires. They are in different performance categories though. I had the previous version of the hankook tires and didn't care for them... The firestones are supposedly very similar to bridgestone re003 tires found in Japan.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests...y.jsp?ttid=190

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests...y.jsp?ttid=217

StraightOuttaCanadaEh 03-17-2017 03:56 PM

what's a fancy velvet sidewall?

NLSP 03-17-2017 05:22 PM

Consider the new Continental ExtremeContact Sport that just came out recently. It's supposed to be pretty much identical to MPSS performance, but at a lower price and more comfortable. I'm replacing my MPSS' with them soon.

brandonblt2 03-17-2017 05:30 PM

Sumitomo HTR Z III cheaper and alittle better in some aspects. I had them and they are great tires. https://www.tirerack.com/tires/Compa...rveyTires=true

dattran86 03-17-2017 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keenercarguy (Post 2874146)
The outgoing PSS is on sale and will be up until the PS4S replaces it. You'd spend about $100 more but you'd get at least that much more out of them performance wise. I like the Indy 500 more than the hankook's, I've run both on my rears. The Indy's have noticeably more grip, I do like running them 1-2psi high though, no more sidewall issues really and they're still grippier. Sidewall can always be compensated by pressure, and the hankook's also have a softer sidewall than the PSS', which are the king.
FYI Falken's new extreme performance summer tire (Azenis K+) is currently on rebate so you can get four really fast tires for about $340 right now, if outright speed is your game. The tire it replaced was a good performance tire overall for sure A lot cheaper than RE71R's, but even with Falken's new compound choice they'll probably still be a tad slower.

How is the tread wear on the indy 500?

Keenercarguy 03-17-2017 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dattran86 (Post 2874379)
How is the tread wear on the indy 500?

They last just about as long as super sports, maybe longer, issue is that I stagger PSS on the fronts and Indy 500's on the rears because they're less expensive so I don't feel so bad about burning them away every now and then :burnrubber:
I'd estimate that if, properly rotated, they'd last a bit longer than the supersports but MPSS' are also known for longevity... And GRIPPPP. If you're looking for the the best tire the MPSS is your best bet, but if saving $100 and having a bit longer tire life is your game then the Indy 500's (or the hankook's) wouldn't be bad choices.
The rival s mentioned is a great tire, my friend runs it on his STX RX8, but they wear pretty fast (200tw AutoX all-out-speed tire) like the Falken's and Re71r's... So probably not a good choice unless you're interested in AutoX a lot, and spending a lot on tires lol.


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